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The discussion revolves around various questions related to AC circuits, focusing on complex admittance, complex power, current calculations in specific circuits, and the application of Kirchhoff's laws in circuits with mutual inductance. The scope includes theoretical concepts, mathematical reasoning, and practical circuit analysis.

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  • One participant questions the physical interpretation of the negative sign in the expression for susceptance B, suggesting it may reflect a relationship between rising and lowering physical parameters, similar to Faraday's law of induction.
  • Another participant inquires why the expression for complex power S uses the complex conjugate of the current, rather than the current itself, indicating a potential misunderstanding of the mathematical formulation.
  • A participant presents a specific circuit problem involving current calculations and expresses confusion over discrepancies in their results compared to the expected outcome.
  • One participant seeks clarification on applying Kirchhoff's laws in circuits with mutual inductance, indicating difficulty in understanding the correct formulation of the equations.

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Participants' discussions reflect limitations in understanding complex concepts, such as the implications of negative signs in mathematical expressions and the application of circuit laws in specific configurations. There are unresolved mathematical steps and assumptions that participants have not fully clarified.

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Suppose that we have a simple system like one illustrated in attachment.

If we need to find complex admittance of that system,we can write:

[tex] \underline{Y}=G+jB=\frac{1}{\underline{Z}}=\frac{1 }{R+jX_L}\cdot\frac{R-jX_L}{R-jX_L}=\frac{R-jX_L}{R^2+X_L^2}=\frac{R}{R^2+X_L^2}+j\frac{-X_L}{R^2+X_L^2}[/tex]

from where we can see that it is [tex]B=\frac{-X_L}{R^2+X_L^2}[/tex],althought it is [tex]B=\frac{X_L}{R^2+X_L^2}[/tex].

Why is this "-" just neglected,what is physical explanation of that?

Or it is just hardcore mathematical laws against imperfect physical reality?

Also,is it because complex numbers are just,let`s say it like this,"artificial" extension of real numbers set?

Probably the explanation is that while one physical parameter is rising(susceptance [tex]B[/tex]),the other is lowering(inductive reactance [tex]X_L[/tex]) and vice-versa,like it is in Faraday`s law of induction:

[tex]e=-\frac{d\phi}{dt}[/tex]

the magnetic field which is produced by induced current(which is in turn produced by induced electromotive force [tex]e[/tex]) is in oposition with the change of outer flux [tex]\phi[/tex](sorry if my technical english sounds a bit clumsy).

But what if there is capacitor instead of inductor?
In that case there is no confusion like this.

There is also a "-" when active and reactive power for system like one illustrated in attachment is calculated.
 

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The second question is regarding complex power [tex]\underline{S}[/tex]:

why expression [tex]\underline{S}=\underline{U}\;\underline{I}[/tex] does not give the correct result,instead of that it is used [tex]\underline{S}=\underline{U}\;\underline{I}^*[/tex] where [tex]\underline{I}^*[/tex] is complex-conjugate of [tex]\underline{I}[/tex]?
 
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I hope I will have more luck with this one:

In given circuit:

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/9085/clipboard05xw4.gif

where is:

[tex]R_1=10\;\Omega[/tex], [tex]R_3=2,5\;\Omega[/tex], [tex]R_2=X_C=X_L=5\;\Omega[/tex] and [tex]\underline{E}=50e^{j\frac{\pi}{2}}\;V[/tex],

find the value of current source [tex]\underline{I}_S[/tex].

Voltage drop on [tex]R_3[/tex] is [tex]\underline{U}=100\;V[/tex].


First I calculate current trough [tex]R_3[/tex]: [tex]\underline{I}_{R_3}=\frac{\underline{U}}{R_3}=40\;A[/tex].


Further,by using Superposition theorem and removing branch containing [tex]\underline{I}_s[/tex] I find that [tex]\underline{E}[/tex] produces current of [tex]j20[/tex].When I substract that value from [tex]\underline{I}_{R_3}[/tex] I get [tex]\underline{I}_S=(40-j20)\;V[/tex].

However,correct result is [tex]\underline{I}_S=(-10+j20)\;V[/tex].

What I do wrong?
 
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Problem 4:

Could someone explain to me how to write equations using 2nd Kirchoff`s Law along the closed loop in circuit where we have mutual inductance between two inductors?

I can`t comprehend this correctly at all.

Here is example circuit:

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/4779/clipboard033mw7.jpg

The closest I was was equation with difference in one [tex]+[/tex] instedad of [tex]-[/tex].

I need explanation here,not just equations,I already have them.
 
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