Reference points in a moving system

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The discussion centers on the conservation of momentum in a system where two particles, m1 and m2, collide and coalesce within a moving box. The equations provided are Pbefore = mass1(u1+v0) + mass2(u2+v0) and Pafter = (mass1+mass2)(v1+v0). The confusion arises from the implication that after the collision, both particles travel at the same velocity, v1, due to their coalescence. This is a definitive requirement of the problem, as the particles must stick together post-collision, leading to a unified velocity.

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  • Understanding of classical mechanics, specifically momentum conservation.
  • Familiarity with the concept of coalescence in particle physics.
  • Knowledge of relative velocity in moving reference frames.
  • Basic algebra for manipulating equations involving mass and velocity.
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  • Study the principles of momentum conservation in isolated systems.
  • Explore the concept of coalescence and its implications in collisions.
  • Learn about reference frames and how they affect velocity calculations.
  • Review examples of elastic and inelastic collisions in classical mechanics.
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Homework Statement



I have been looking at one of my review sheets, and do not know how the professor got the equations.

Here is the relevant paragraph:

Consider two particles of mass m1 and m2 isolated within a box, with respect to which
they have velocities u1 and u2. The box is moving at a steady v0 relative to some external
frame of reference. At some instant, the particles collide and coalesce. The momentum just
before and just after this event must be respectively

Homework Equations



Pbefore = mass1(u1+v0) + mass2(u2+v0)

Pafter = (mass1+mass2)(v1+v0)

The Attempt at a Solution



The first equation I understand, but doesn't the second equation imply that both masses are traveling the same speed? Why would two different masses collide and then travel the same velocity?

I'm confused because the paragraph says it MUST BE this, implying I'm not getting something, rather than ASSUME, which would be setting conditions.
 
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The problem description describes that the two particles "collide and coalesce". The later means that the two particles stick together after the collision and, hence, they travel with same velocity. Given a priori that the two particle stick together, the momumentum written as Pafter is a "must be" thing (assuming here that v1 is the velocity of the two particles relative to the box after collision).
 
Thanks for the reply!
 

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