Reversible vs. pseudostatic processes

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In summary, a reversible process is one in which the initial and final states of the system and environment can be interchanged, while a pseudostatic process is one in which the system and its surroundings maintain thermal equilibrium. A quasistatic process is a type of pseudostatic process where the direction can be reversed by making small changes to external factors. These concepts are applicable in thermodynamics, but not for changes in magnetic fields as they only consider a single degree of freedom.
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I wonder whether a reversible process has to be quasistatic or at least
pseudostatic? (probably there exist some processes involving magnetic field
which are reversible but not pseudostatic).

Below I define what I mean by a reversible, quasistatic and pseudostatic process.

Reversible process - let's consider a process R in which initial state of the system
was a, initial state of the environment was b and final state of the system and
environment was a' and b' appropriately. If there exists a process which
changes the state of full system (considered system + environment)
form (a',b') to (a,b) the process R is said to be reversible.

Pseudostatic process - this is a process during which it may be
assumed that both the system and its surroundings maintain thermal equilibrium
(the changes are made sufficiently slow).

Quasistatic process - this is such a pseudostatic process that in any moment
if we slightly change some of the external factors which cause it (pressure,
magnetic field, ...) we can reverse its direction.

Thanks for any answers.
 
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So, I think the notion of 'pseudostatic' is in the context of a time scale slow relative to the internal dynamics of the system. This is a thermodynamic concept, so you cannot talk about whether changes in magnetic fields are reversible or pseudostatic, because in that case you are presumably only considering a single degree of freedom. Heating materials, allowing gases to expand, (de)magnetizing ferromagnets- in these systems the notion of reversible and pseudostatic is applicable, because as you change the bulk thermodynamic properties (T, rho, M respectively), the internal dynamics of the system allow the multitude degrees of freedom of adjust accordingly to 'catch up' with these bulk changes and come back into equilibrium. This usually is not so slow, so a pseudostatic process is quite fast by human time scales.
 

1. What is the difference between a reversible and a pseudostatic process?

A reversible process is one that can be reversed by infinitesimal changes to the system, while a pseudostatic process is one that appears to be in equilibrium, but is actually in a state of continuous change.

2. What are some examples of reversible processes?

Examples of reversible processes include ideal gas expansion and compression, reversible chemical reactions, and reversible phase changes.

3. How can you tell if a process is reversible or pseudostatic?

A reversible process will follow the ideal gas law, Boyle's law, and other thermodynamic laws, while a pseudostatic process will not. Additionally, a reversible process will reach equilibrium, while a pseudostatic process will continue to change over time.

4. What are the advantages of using reversible processes in scientific experiments?

Reversible processes allow for precise control and measurement of system properties, as they can be easily reversed and repeated. This allows for more accurate data and observations to be collected.

5. Can all processes be reversible?

No, not all processes can be reversible. Some processes, such as irreversible chemical reactions or irreversible phase changes, cannot be reversed without an input of energy from an external source.

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