Review My Understanding of Electrical Concepts

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The discussion revolves around fundamental electrical concepts, particularly focusing on current, resistance, and the behavior of circuits. Participants are exploring the implications of Ohm's law and the nature of energy consumption in electrical systems.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to clarify the concept of resistance being constant despite current flow, questioning the idea of current being "used up," and exploring the reasons behind electricity consumption and circuit closure.

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Some participants have provided insights related to Ohm's law and the relationship between voltage, current, and resistance. There is an ongoing exploration of how energy is dissipated in resistors and the implications of open versus closed circuits. Multiple interpretations of the concepts are being discussed, with no explicit consensus reached.

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Participants are grappling with definitions and assumptions about electrical concepts, including the nature of current flow and the conditions under which resistance is considered constant. The discussion reflects a mix of understanding and confusion regarding these foundational ideas.

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I always fail to get the concepts down or not fully state the concepts, so I would appreciate it if someone reviewed my understanding of these concepts and point of the places where I'm not getting the right idea or almost got the right idea but not completely.1. What is wrong with this: "If current is used up going through a resistor & in a the resistor there is a constant potential difference , so why is the resistance on the resistor constant?"

Current can never be used up. Resistance is constant in a resistor because the same current always flow in the circuit.2. If current is not used up, then what is? (we pay for electricity for some reason)
I got somewhat confused on this. Don't we pay for electricity because it's difficult to generate electricity and maybe resistance could have something to do with it? I really can't think of anything that could be used up. 3. Battery terminals have to be connected together for current to flow, why?
the terminals have to be connected, so it can be a closed circuit where current can flow from the battery and back to the battery and get sent out again in a cycle.
 
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For (1), Ohm's law is the answer which states that I \propto V in a conductor while temperature remains constant. The constant of proportionality is the inverse of resistance (R) of that conductor. Ohm has done many experiements and discovered that the above relation holds in conductors and now it is called in his name.

For (2) you pay electricity bill because you consume power. Whenever current flows through resistor power is dissipated in the resistor. There could be energy conversion, for example in your room heater, that energy is converted into heat, in your filament lamp it is converted mostly into light and so on.

For (3) open circuit means infinite resistance. So voltage divided by infinite resistance gives zero current. That's why no current flows while circuit is open.
 
n.karthick said:
For (1), Ohm's law is the answer which states that I \propto V in a conductor while temperature remains constant. The constant of proportionality is the inverse of resistance (R) of that conductor. Ohm has done many experiements and discovered that the above relation holds in conductors and now it is called in his name.

For (2) you pay electricity bill because you consume power. Whenever current flows through resistor power is dissipated in the resistor. There could be energy conversion, for example in your room heater, that energy is converted into heat, in your filament lamp it is converted mostly into light and so on.

For (3) open circuit means infinite resistance. So voltage divided by infinite resistance gives zero current. That's why no current flows while circuit is open.


For the first part, you're saying that the resistance is constant because the current is the same in the current and and also current and voltage are proportional, so voltage is constant too. Since R= V/I , with V/I being a constant ratio, R is also constant. Did I screw it up, ( I do that a lot)?
 
MitsuShai said:
For the first part, you're saying that the resistance is constant because the current is the same in the current and and also current and voltage are proportional, so voltage is constant too. Since R= V/I , with V/I being a constant ratio, R is also constant.

Take it this way, you can apply any amount of voltage to a conductor, measure the current flowing through the conductor, now find ratio of voltages and corresponding current values. You will find that for different values of voltages applied and the corresponding V/I ratios are always the same. Since this is a constant we give it a name that is resistance of the conductor. (Remember it holds only when temperature is maintained constant.)
 
n.karthick said:
Take it this way, you can apply any amount of voltage to a conductor, measure the current flowing through the conductor, now find ratio of voltages and corresponding current values. You will find that for different values of voltages applied and the corresponding V/I ratios are always the same. Since this is a constant we give it a name that is resistance of the conductor. (Remember it holds only when temperature is maintained constant.)

Understood, Thank you very much for your help :)
 

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