RFID Tag Design Help for High School Project - Corey

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the design and implementation of RFID tags for a high school project aimed at integrating them into the lock and ignition systems of automobiles. Participants explore various aspects of RFID technology, including types, frequencies, and practical applications in automotive systems.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • Corey and their group are attempting to incorporate RFID tags into automobile systems and are seeking feedback on their design.
  • Participants inquire about the specific type of RFID technology Corey intends to use, including the frequency and whether the tags will be passive, active, or RF-powered.
  • Corey mentions a preference for using an active capacitively coupled RF tag.
  • There is a request for resources or references regarding capacitively coupled RF tag technology.
  • Concerns are raised about the complexity of integrating RFID into existing lock and ignition systems, particularly regarding tampering and compatibility with different car models.
  • Questions are posed about the method and level of encryption that will be used in the RFID system.
  • Participants express encouragement for Corey to share their current understanding and future plans regarding the project.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need for a solid understanding of RFID technology and its application in automotive systems. However, there are varying levels of knowledge about the specifics of RFID types and encryption methods, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved on these technical details.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of detailed knowledge about the specific types of RFID tags and their operational characteristics, as well as the challenges of integrating the technology into different automobile models.

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hi. my name is corey, and for my high school project, my group and i are trying to incorporate RFID tags into the lock and ignition system in automobiles. we are having truoble building/designing the RF tags. any feedback would be greatly appreciated. thanks
 
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Tell us what you know already about RFID tags. How many different types are there (I mean, how many different kinds of RF schemes are used)? Specifically which type of RFID do you want to use? What frequency do you want to use? Are your tags passive, active, or RF-powered? What information do you want to have the RFID tags return?
 
we know a little bit about rf tags, mainly how they work and what they do. we are leaning towards using an active capacitively coupled rf tag.
 
Do you have a web pointer to the "capacitively coupled RF tag" technology?
 
Also, what do you know about the lock and ignition system in automobiles?

Personally I know practically nothing about them but I would hope they were hard to tamper with which may complicate your project. But perhaps the older the car is the easier they are to modify. Anyway, I suspect actually patching it into the car will be the most difficult part so you might want to spend a little time doing research to see if this is even feasible with your particular make and model of auto.
 
Oh yeah, and what method and level of encryption are you incorporating?
 
berkeman said:
Oh yeah, and what method and level of encryption are you incorporating?
:smile:

I am sure berkeman is not intending to scare you away. We'd just like to
see what kind of background information you have gathered. For a high school project, understanding the rudiments of RFID and implementing a basic application is commendable.

Perhaps you can layout for us what you have so far and what you intend to do next.
 
Ouabache said:
:smile:

I am sure berkeman is not intending to scare you away. We'd just like to
see what kind of background information you have gathered. For a high school project, understanding the rudiments of RFID and implementing a basic application is commendable.

Oopsies, thanks Ouabache. I spaced the part in the OP where it was a high school project. I just re-read the application (car ignition lock) and had an "oh yeah" thought. :blushing:
 
haha yea. so far we don't know a lot about rf tags, but do have a basic understanding on how they work. we are planning on using an active capacitively coupled RF tag and reciever to unlock a car and start it when the rf tag comes within 5 feet of the receiver, which will probably be located in the glove compartment or next to the fuse box.
 

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