Rigid Box and 3D Schrodinger equation

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving an electron confined in a three-dimensional cubic region, specifically addressing the Schrödinger equation, wave functions, and energy calculations for quantum states.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the formulation of the wave equation and wave function, with some confusion regarding the specific requirements for each part of the problem. There is a suggestion to justify the wave function representation and to clarify the relationship between the Schrödinger equation and wave behavior.

Discussion Status

Some participants are providing guidance on how to approach the problem, particularly in understanding the relationship between the Schrödinger equation and wave functions. There is an acknowledgment of the need for deeper reasoning and justification in the responses, but no consensus has been reached on the specific solutions or methods.

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Participants note the importance of demonstrating understanding beyond simply copying lecture notes, indicating that the homework may have specific expectations regarding the depth of explanation and reasoning.

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Homework Statement


An electron is confined within a three-dimensional cubic region the size of an atom where L = 200 pm.
a) write a wave equation for the electron
b) wirte a general wave function for the possbile states of the electorn. List any quantum numbers and their possible values.
c) calculate the energy of the four lowest states
d) calculate the energies and wavelength of photons created during transitions between these states

Homework Equations


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and A = (2/L)^(3/2)

The Attempt at a Solution


The note above is from my lecture note. I think they probably work for this question.

a, c)
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b) I am confused here.
d)
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I think
(a) means the Schrödinger equation ... it will have to be peicewise.
(b) is the wave-function you have written ... if this is long answers you'll have to justify doing ##\psi_{k}(x,y,z)=\psi_l(x)\psi_m(y)\psi_n(z)##
(c) ... look for states k=l+m+n with lowest energy.
(d) ... once you have (c) this is just subtraction

I think your reasoning in the later part is OK - from what I can make out - I'd prefer you to show more thinking for the first parts since it just looks like you are copying from lectures. You should try to show that you have understood the lecture to get full marks, and this usually means you have to write sentences as well as equations.
 
Hi Simon, thanks for helping me again.

wave equation is the Schrödinger equation? and wave function is the solution?
 
How else do we account for the first two questions.

The (time independent) SE is a special case of the Helmholtz equation which is the time-independent part of a wave equation.
(Therefore, the statistics described by solutions to the SE will behave like waves.)

I suspect the answer for the wave equation should be the time-dependent SE ... I'd start by writing out $$\left ( \nabla^2+V(\vec{r})-i\hbar\frac{\partial}{\partial t}\right )\Psi(\vec{r},t)=0$$... then get more explicit for ##V##.

The next question is asking for ##\Psi(\vec{r},t)## ...

See why I think your prof is seeing if you have understood the lectures?
 
Hi Simon, I'll come back and think more after my coming exam.
 

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