Rod Hanging in Water: Find Line of Buoyancy Force

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The discussion revolves around a rod that is partially immersed in water and is attached to a ceiling, making it capable of revolving freely. The rod is positioned at an angle of approximately 60 degrees to the water, and participants are exploring the line of action of the buoyancy force acting on the rod.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants are questioning whether the line of action of the buoyancy force is located at the center of mass of the rod or at the center of the immersed portion. There is an emphasis on understanding the implications of this line of action in relation to torque and equilibrium.

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Some participants have provided insights into the relationship between buoyancy and torque, suggesting that the line of action is critical for calculating torque in the context of equilibrium. Others have attempted to clarify the concept by considering the scenario of replacing the rod with water, leading to further exploration of the line of action.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the line of action of the buoyancy force and its implications for torque calculations. There is a focus on understanding the physical principles involved without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Lets consider a rod of length l that is attached at a point to the cealing and relvolves freely. Half of the rod is immersed in water and half of it is out of the water. The rod is not vertical it has around a 60 degree angle to the water. Where is the line of action of the boyuancy force? Is it at the CM of the rod or is it at the center of ther part immersed in water? Why? I drew a picture hope it is understandible: https://imgur.com/a/6uxtO

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Horvath Bela said:

Homework Statement


Lets consider a rod of length l that is attached at a point to the cealing and relvolves freely. Half of the rod is immersed in water and half of it is out of the water. The rod is not vertical it has around a 60 degree angle to the water. Where is the line of action of the boyuancy force? Is it at the CM of the rod or is it at the center of ther part immersed in water? Why? I drew a picture hope it is understandible: https://imgur.com/a/6uxtO

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I am really qlueless as for the line of action of the force. I know the magnitude of the bouyancy force it is equal to the weight of the displaced water which is the half of the volume of the rod and times 1000 kg/m^3. The line of action is important because this a torque problem and since the rod is in equalibrium the net torque is zero, but to calculate the torque of the bouyancy force I would need to know its lever. I hope this shows you that I have considered the problem. Would you please tell me where the line of action of the bouyancy force is?
 
Horvath Bela said:
I am really qlueless as for the line of action of the force. I know the magnitude of the bouyancy force it is equal to the weight of the displaced water which is the half of the volume of the rod and times 1000 kg/m^3. The line of action is important because this a torque problem and since the rod is in equalibrium the net torque is zero, but to calculate the torque of the bouyancy force I would need to know its lever. I hope this shows you that I have considered the problem. Would you please tell me where the line of action of the bouyancy force is?
No, but I will help you figure it out.
Consider removing the rod and filling in the space that leaves in the water with... more water. Clearly this would be in equilibrium. What is the weight of the added water, and where is the line of action of that weight?
 
The weight of the added water is equal to what the bouyance force was, and the line of action is where the center of the immersed part of the rod used to be.
 
Horvath Bela said:
The weight of the added water is equal to what the bouyance force was, and the line of action is where the center of the immersed part of the rod used to be.
Yes.
 

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