Rotational energy and flywheels

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A discussion on rotational energy and flywheels centers around calculating the energy stored in a 300kg flywheel spinning at 100 rotations per second and determining how high a 1000kg car could climb using that energy. The correct approach involves using the formula for rotational energy, leading to a total energy of approximately 6,162,250 joules for the flywheel. This energy can theoretically raise the car to a height of about 2,515 meters. Additionally, there is confusion regarding the number of flywheels, as only one is specified in the problem. The calculation of the force on a 1kg mass near the edge of the disk simplifies to finding the centripetal force.
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Homework Statement



Hey guys I have two questions. The first one I'm not sure, while the second one, I have some idea but don't know how to proceed with answering the question.

1. A rapidly spinning flywheel has been suggested as an energy storage mechanism for cars. Let's consider a 300kg uniform disk flywheel of diameter of 0.5m spinning at 100 rotations per second. Find the energy stored in the spinning flywheel. How higha hill could the 1000kg car (including the flywheel) climb with this energy?

2. Calculate the force on a 1kg chunk of metal near the edge of the disk.

Homework Equations


ω=2∏/T
Erot=0.5Iω2=0.25MR2ω2
Erot=Ep


The Attempt at a Solution


1.

ω=2∏*100/1=628rads-1

The total mass of the car is 1000kg which includes the flywheels. In total there are 4 flywheels on the car. So the mass of the car is distributed among the 4 wheels.

M=1000/4=250kg (per wheel)

Using the third equation,
Erot=0.25*250*0.252*6282=1540562.5J
This is the energy for one wheel. Therefore, the total energy of the 4 wheel is 4*1540562.5=6162250J.

Using conservation of energy (last equation) 6162250=250*9.8*h.
Solving for h: h=6162250/(250*9.8)=2515m

2.

For this question, I know that I have to find the tangential force, but, how would i start? Is the tangential force a component of centripetal force?

Many thanks :D
 
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1. You have this wrong. The mass of the flywheel is stated in the problem as 300kg. It only mentions one flywheel so I've no idea why you are assuming there are four 250kg flywheels?

Use your equation to work out the energy stored in that one 300kg flywheel.

The total car weight is given as 1000kg. Write an equation for the energy required to raise that much mass by height h. Assume all the energy stored in that one 300kg flywheel is converted into raising the car and solve for h.

2. You are making it more complicated than it is. The answer is just the centripetal force. Imagine you have a 1kg mass on a string of length =0.5m rotating at ω. What is the centripetal force (aka tension in the string).
 
CWatters said:
1. You have this wrong. The mass of the flywheel is stated in the problem as 300kg. It only mentions one flywheel so I've no idea why you are assuming there are four 250kg flywheels?
Seems to be a confusion between flywheels and roadwheels.
 
CWatters said:
1. You have this wrong. The mass of the flywheel is stated in the problem as 300kg. It only mentions one flywheel so I've no idea why you are assuming there are four 250kg flywheels?

Use your equation to work out the energy stored in that one 300kg flywheel.

The total car weight is given as 1000kg. Write an equation for the energy required to raise that much mass by height h. Assume all the energy stored in that one 300kg flywheel is converted into raising the car and solve for h.

2. You are making it more complicated than it is. The answer is just the centripetal force. Imagine you have a 1kg mass on a string of length =0.5m rotating at ω. What is the centripetal force (aka tension in the string).

Sorry for the late reply, many thanks for your input!
Ahhh yes, googled "flywheels", turned out to be some wheel under a car storing energy. Got confused with flywheels being the tyres haha :D
 
Obviously not an F1 fan :-)
 
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