Sealing Rotating Rod: Efficient Solution?

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Sealing a rotating rod within a fluid-filled cylinder presents challenges, primarily due to the need for a friction lining that allows rotation while maintaining a seal, which can lead to inefficiency and wear over time. Alternatives like lip seals, dynamic o-ring seals, and ferrofluidic seals are suggested to reduce friction and improve performance. The discussion highlights the importance of understanding the operational requirements, such as pressure and shaft RPM, to select the appropriate sealing solution. Dual seals with a pumpout system are also mentioned as a viable option for high-pressure applications. Overall, exploring these sealing technologies can lead to more efficient solutions for rotating systems.
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Imagine a solid rod passing through a cylinder filled with a fluid at certain pressure -

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The yellow part inside in the fluid, the cylinder has been made transparent for ease.

To make the fluid not leak, the sealing of the rod and cylinder should be completely sealed...this has been done, but rod cannot be rotated in this situation independent of the cylinder.

If it has to be rotated, there should be a friction lining on the sealing which will allow the rod to rotate yet maintain the sealing; but this way is inefficient, i.e since there's friction, there will be a resistance to the rotation of the rod and the sealing with degrade with time as the rod continues to rotate.

So is there any efficient way known to do the same as above; for example with bearing so as to reduce friction?
 

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Lip seals offer very little resistance since they require being lubricated by the fluid you are sealing. I would suggest looking into them.
 
Too bad we don't have a wiki article on that.

I'll have a look.

But it's not that much of fool proof right...I mean if the pressure is too high, like in a compressor, it's resistance will too increase.
 
Can you specify the requirements the seal will have to operate under? I have used lip seals under a lot of different applications.

You could also look at a dynamic o-ring seal.
 
FredGarvin said:
Can you specify the requirements the seal will have to operate under? I have used lip seals under a lot of different applications.

You could also look at a dynamic o-ring seal.

For instance replacement of a centrifugal pump with a 'fan based' pump...just one small example.
 
Bob S said:
Some high vacuum applications for rotating feedthroughs use a ferrofluidic seal. See
http://www.ferrotec.com/products/ferrofluidic/
Other solutions use dual seals on each end with a pumpout between them.

That ferrotec one, but it works only a magnetic fluid right?


Can I get a bit more detail about that pumpout technique?
 
dE_logics said:
For instance replacement of a centrifugal pump with a 'fan based' pump...just one small example.

I meant in terms of pressure difference across the seal and shaft RPM.
 
Any variation.

Similar to what is in a compressor.
 
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So the RPM will be very high.
 
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'O' Rings inside the cylinder of adequate material would work.

Tom
 
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