Show the relative difference in clock time between plane/ground is

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The discussion revolves around calculating the relative difference in clock time between a plane and a clock on the ground, factoring in the Earth's rotation. The user successfully demonstrated that the time difference is independent of certain variables through algebra but struggles with applying the correct velocities in the gamma equation for time dilation. They used the angular frequency and height to derive velocities for both the plane and the Earth, but suspect they may have misapplied the inertial frames. Additionally, they made approximations regarding the neglect of certain terms in their calculations, which raises questions about the accuracy of their method. Overall, the conversation highlights the complexities of relativistic effects in different reference frames.
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Homework Statement


http://puu.sh/7vC46.png
http://puu.sh/7vBG5.png
Note: In this image the ohm symbol represents the angular frequency of the Earth's rotation

Homework Equations


Gamma = 1/SQRT(1-v^2/c^2)
V (relative to centre of earth) = angular frequency(R+h) +/- v
v= plane velocity dependent on direction
R= radius of earth
h= height plane is flying


The Attempt at a Solution


The first part about showing it isn't dependent was easy and I just did some basic algebra. However, the second part is problematic.I can't seem to get to the equation it's asking for using the 2 tricks suggested. I think possibly because I'm using the wrong velocities when putting in Gamma(earth) and Gamma(plane)

The velocities I used were
V(plane) = Angular frequency*(R+h)+/-v
V(Earth) = Angular frequency*(R+h)
I put those into the gamma formula and went from there. I think I might be using the wrong velocities and have mucked up the inertial frames or something.
 
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For what it's worth, I was able to derive the equation using
V(Earth) = Angular frequency*R

I figured since that clock is on the Earth, there's no reason to include "h" for that particular clock (The "h" is still present in the planes' velocities though).

But, and this is a big "but," I also had to assume that \frac{\Omega^2 h^2}{c^2} and \frac{\Omega h v}{c^2} were negligible compared to other, similar terms and can be neglected (contrasted with terms like \frac{R \Omega^2 h}{c^2} and \frac{R \Omega v}{c^2} which are obviously much larger). That particular approximation wasn't spelled out in the problem statement, so I'm not sure if my method is "correct" either. :redface:
 
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Omg... Wow thank you so much. I can't believe I overlooked that haha :P
 
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