Simple electric force problem with point masses includes picture

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The problem involves four point charges arranged at the corners of a square, with a point charge placed at the center. The objective is to determine the net electric force exerted on the central charge by the corner charges, utilizing Coulomb's law.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the necessity of considering the forces between the corner charges and the central charge. There is an exploration of drawing free body diagrams to visualize the forces acting on the central charge. Some participants express confusion about how to relate the corner charges to the central charge and how to express the forces without specific numerical values.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their thoughts on focusing on the forces acting on the central charge. Guidance has been provided to concentrate efforts on the net force on the charge at the center, and there is mention of potential symmetries that could simplify the analysis.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge of expressing the forces without concrete numerical values and the implications of symmetry in the arrangement of charges.

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Simple electric force problem with point masses... includes picture!

Homework Statement


Four point charges of +/- q are arranged on the corners of a square of side L as illustrated in the figure. What is the net electric force that these charges exert on a point charge q placed at the center of the square (in terms of Q, q, L, and the Coulomb constant, K)

Diagram:
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Homework Equations


Coulomb's law: F= k * (q * q)/r^2


The Attempt at a Solution


I started off my drawing a free body diagram. Picking one Q (the lower left) I drew one electrostatic force (from the upper Q) going vertically downwards because they are like charges so they have to repel.
I drew another electrostatic force (from the Q to the right, with the negative charge) going to the right in the x direction.
There is also going to be a force from Q on q in the center.

From here I am totally confused. I think if I am able to resolve all of the forces for one of the Q's I can use symmetry to find my answer but I am not sure how. I am also wary of how to relate any of the Q's to q. I hope this isn't too confusing for anyone, I really appreciate it.
 
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Why do you need the forces of the charges on the square upon each other?
 


I am not sure... should I just take into account the forces applied by each of the corners on the center, q.

I can draw a free body diagram for that, but without concrete number I am lost on how to write the expression.
 


1901phoenix said:
I am not sure... should I just take into account the forces applied by each of the corners on the center, q.

Yes, the question asks for the net force on the charge at the center, so concentrate your efforts there.

I can draw a free body diagram for that, but without concrete number I am lost on how to write the expression.

Well, variables are just numbers in disguise! I'm afraid you'll have to suffer the algebra. If you look carefully at the diagram, before you even write down a single equation, you might be able to spot some symmetries that will simplify things considerably. Pay attention to the placement and polarities of the charges.
 

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