Simple Harmonic Motion & Pendulum Problems Need HELP

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The discussion focuses on solving problems related to simple harmonic motion (SHM) and pendulum dynamics. The first question involves calculating the maximum speed of a block attached to a spring, which was correctly determined as 0.78 m/s. However, the subsequent calculations for the block's speed at 3 cm from equilibrium and its acceleration at that position were incorrect, highlighting confusion over the formulas used. Participants provided insights into the relationships between displacement, velocity, and acceleration in SHM, emphasizing the importance of correctly applying the equations. The conversation also touches on a separate problem involving a spring's constant and the effects of adding mass, with calculations leading to a spring constant of 2.8 N/m and a period of motion of approximately 26.6 seconds when the additional mass is removed.
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Question 1:
A 0.1 kg block attached to a spring of force constant 16.9 N/m oscillates with an amplitude of 6 cm. Find the maximum speed of the block. Answer in units of m/s.

Question 2:
Find the speed of the block when it is 3 cm from the equilibrium position. Answer in units of m/s.

Question 3:
Find its acceleration at 3 cm from the equilibrium position.
Answer in units of m/s2.1) Vmax = .06(16.9/.1)^.5
= 0.78 THIS IS CORRECT

2) v = Vmaxsin(pi/3)
= 0.78(pi/3)
= THIS IS WORONG

3) a = .5Vmaxomega
= .5(7.8) (16.9/.1)^.5
= THIS IS WRONG TOO

I tried and I got 2 and 3 wrong :( I ran out of solutions. help please

I was pretty sure one was right.. but it said it was wrong when I entered it :(
 
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Do you know a formula to find the maximum speed if x=Asin\omega t ?
 


Are you saying that is the speed formula? I am not sure of any.. I feel completely lost!
 
The first one is correct.

For the 2nd one, if x=Asin\omega t
\frac{dx}{dt}=v=A\omega cos\omega t...(*)

sin^2 \omega t+ cos^2 \omega t =1 \Rightarrow cos^2 \omega t=\pm \sqrt{1-sin^2 \omega t}

Making (*) become
v=\pm \omega A\sqrt{1-sin^2 \omega t}

v=\pm \omega \sqrt{A^2-A^2sin^2 \omega t}

v=\pm \sqrt{A^2-x^2}

For the third part. What equation do you know connecting acceleration and displacement??
 
Ok here goes.

The formula for SHM is x = Asin[wt] (w representing omega/angular momentum)
w = sqrt(k/m) Just does :P

So

x = Asin[sqrt(k/m).t]

v=x/t or dx/dt
d(Asin[sqrt(k/m).t])/dt just diffentiates x which is Asin[sqrt(k/m).t], with respect to t
v = dx/dt = sqrt(k/m).Asin[sqrt(k/m).t]

The sin function vaires between 1 and -1,
so v is at a max when sin[sqrt(k/m).t]=1
so you get
vMAX = sqrt(k/m).A

PART 2

For this part you have the same two equations

x = Asin[sqrt(k/m).t]
v = sqrt(k/m).Asin[sqrt(k/m).t]

You are asked to find out what v is at 3cm.
However your v equation depends on t so the first
thing you must do is find at what time t x=3

x = Asin[sqrt(k/m).t]
x/A = sin[sqrt(k/m).t]
sin-1[x/a] = sqrt(k/m).t sin-1 indicates inverse sin
t = (sin-1[x/a])/sqrt(k/m)

with this t you just plug it into your eq for v:
v = sqrt(k/m).Acos[sqrt(k/m).t].

PART 3

a = dv/dt so you just diffrentiate your eq for v again
a = -(k/m).Asin[sqrt(k/m).t]

Now you know what time x=3 so you just put this in the equation for a

If you write these down it will be very clear.
 
i need help with thia problem i seem to be stuck on finding the spring constant here is the problem
a spring is hanging with a 50kg mass on its end. when 20g is added it stretches 7cm more. a)find the spring constant b) if the 20g is removed, what i the new period of motion
 
laetitia said:
i need help with thia problem i seem to be stuck on finding the spring constant here is the problem
a spring is hanging with a 50kg mass on its end. when 20g is added it stretches 7cm more. a)find the spring constant b) if the 20g is removed, what i the new period of motion

a)K=F/x
k=(.02x9.81)/.07
k=2.8Nm^-1
b)f=(1/2\pi)(\sqrt{}(k/m)
f=(1/2\pi)(\sqrt{}(2.8/50)
f=0.03766Hz
f=1/t
t=26.6s

Does that help? you should create ur own thread 4 different questions...
 
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