Sine wave generator without constant voltage

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The discussion centers on troubleshooting issues with an ancient signal generator used for sine wave frequency measurements in a physics lab. Key problems identified include the interaction between the generator's output impedance (typically 50 ohms) and the varying impedance of the test circuit, which can lead to voltage fluctuations. The consensus emphasizes the importance of meticulous data collection and adjustment of the output before readings to ensure accurate results. Additionally, factors such as ambient temperature, time of day, and assembly torque can significantly impact experimental outcomes.

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In physics lab we were using a signal generator with sine wave to find the frequency of a circuit quite precisely. Unfortunately, we had trouble and when checked with a circuit with purely resistive impedance, voltage changed with the frequency of the sine wave.

The signal generator is rather ancient, but my professor stated it worked the previous semester. Is this often something a simple dusting could fix?
 
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Good perception. Lack of attention in the lab runs rampent in these times, and I'm glad to see someone paying attention.

Chances are you have one or both of the following:
1 - The impedance of your test circuit varies with frequency and interacts with the source. After all, the signal generator has some impedance (typically 50 ohms) and in some cases, poorly designed equipment can interact with reactive loads.
2 - The generator's output naturally varies with frequency. I have an old piece of equipment. I love it dearly, but it has the same problem.

The answer is, and always will be - take more data! Keep a column for your excitation as well as your output. If it's a linear system, you can correct it in math later. Otherwise, you can adjust the source before each reading. But, take the reading anyway and make a note that you had to adjust the output and why.

Keeping track of things that seem unimportant, and teaching your staff to do the same, will likely aid you in your career. In many cases the ambient temperature, time of day, season of the year, applied torque during assembly, etc.. ended up being linked to experiment results.

Temperature is pretty obvious. Time of day tends to be related to what people are doing, how much vibration is present, and what the heating and air conditioning are doing. Season of the year - humidity and heat load. Torque - leaky fittings and poor electrical connections.

At one time, these tenants were held self evident, but now, most companies and labs take for granted that calibration stickers mean that everything in the system is working properly. It was the old school technicians, turned out at such places as GE, that embarassed me a few times and led me to understand the value of careful measurement, recording, and compensation.

I wish you well,

Mike
 
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