Solution to Op-Amp Circuit with Adjustable Resistor RΔ

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The discussion centers on an op-amp circuit with an adjustable resistor RΔ, where the maximum value is 160 kΩ and α ranges from 0.22 to 0.7. For part (a), the user attempts to calculate the output voltage (vo) for a given input voltage (vg = 40 mV) but struggles to find the correct values using the standard inverting amplifier equation. In part (b), they analyze the conditions for saturation, concluding that a gain of 300 would require a resistance that exceeds the maximum available, leading to confusion about the resistor's function. Clarifications are provided regarding the adjustment of the pot and the need for new KCL equations to accurately determine the transfer function. The conversation highlights the complexities involved in understanding the circuit's behavior with the adjustable resistor.
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Homework Statement



The op-amp in the circuit shown is ideal (please see attachment). The adjustable resistor RΔ has a maximum value of 160 kΩ and α is restricted to the range of 0.22 ≤ α ≤ 0.7.

(a) Calculate the range of vo if vg = 40 mV

(b) If α is not restricted, at what value of α will the op amp saturate?

Homework Equations



for a difference amplifier: vo = -(Rf/Ri)vin

The Attempt at a Solution



Firstly, I don't understand how the adjustable resistor functions in this circuit.
My interpretation is that the resistance ranges from a minimum of 0.22(160 kΩ / 0.7)
to a maximum of 160 kΩ (given).

PART A:

for maximum gain, Rf is maximized
so Rf = 20k + 160k = 180k
then vo = -(180/4)(40mV) = -1.8 V, which is not the right answer

for minimum gain, Rf = 20k + 50.29k = 70.29k
so vo = -(70.29/4)(40mV) = -0.703 V, which is again not the right answer

PART B:

for saturation, we would require a gain: A = 12V/40mV = 300
so Rf should be 300*4 kΩ = 1200 kΩ
then the variable resistor should provide a resistance of 1180 kΩ
how is this even possible, if the maximum resistance is way smaller than this value?

I must be misunderstanding how the resistor works, so I would appreciate any help
Thanks in advance.
 

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Sunny16 said:

Homework Statement



The op-amp in the circuit shown is ideal (please see attachment). The adjustable resistor RΔ has a maximum value of 160 kΩ and α is restricted to the range of 0.22 ≤ α ≤ 0.7.

(a) Calculate the range of vo if vg = 40 mV

(b) If α is not restricted, at what value of α will the op amp saturate?

Homework Equations



for a difference amplifier: vo = -(Rf/Ri)vin

The Attempt at a Solution



Firstly, I don't understand how the adjustable resistor functions in this circuit.
My interpretation is that the resistance ranges from a minimum of 0.22(160 kΩ / 0.7)
to a maximum of 160 kΩ (given).

PART A:

for maximum gain, Rf is maximized
so Rf = 20k + 160k = 180k
then vo = -(180/4)(40mV) = -1.8 V, which is not the right answer

for minimum gain, Rf = 20k + 50.29k = 70.29k
so vo = -(70.29/4)(40mV) = -0.703 V, which is again not the right answer

PART B:

for saturation, we would require a gain: A = 12V/40mV = 300
so Rf should be 300*4 kΩ = 1200 kΩ
then the variable resistor should provide a resistance of 1180 kΩ
how is this even possible, if the maximum resistance is way smaller than this value?

I must be misunderstanding how the resistor works, so I would appreciate any help
Thanks in advance.

I believe they are saying that the pot can be adjusted from 0.22 to 0.7 of its full scale setting. And I don't think you can just use the standard inverting amplifier equation, not with that grounded pot sitting in there. I'd write out the new KCL equations, with a new node at the wiper of the pot. What equation do you get now for the transfer function?

And when they remove the restrictions on the pot, that just means that it can go all the way to the ends, with the wiper at 0 Ohms or up at 160 kOhms.
 
Thanks for the explanation. I think I understand it better now, even though I still can't get the correct answer.
The attachment is a quick sketch of a section of the circuit with my variables labelled.

Here's my KCL equations:

1)

Vg/4000 = -Vx/20000
so Vx = -5Vg

2)

Vx/(aR) = (Vo-Vx)/(1-a)R
(1-a)Vx = a(Vo-Vx)
Vo = Vx/a = -5Vg/a

PART A:

I used a = 0.22, then a = 0.7 to get the range of Vo

PART B:

I set Vo = -12 = -5Vg/a
and got a = 0.0167
 

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