Solving a Complex Kirchoff's Law Problem - Mike's Request for Help

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This discussion centers on solving a complex problem involving Kirchhoff's laws, specifically addressing a circuit analysis challenge presented by a user named Mike. The key equations derived include 60 = 20Ia + 10Ib and 20 = 20Ib + 10Ia, leading to the calculated currents Ia = 3.333A and Ib = -0.6666A. The final load current Il is determined to be 2.6667A, resulting in a load voltage Vl of 26.667V. The importance of clearly stating intermediate steps in calculations is emphasized to avoid errors.

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Homework Statement


Hello there, hope you are well.

I am having trouble solving this problem involving Kirchoff's laws.

I have attached a copy of the circuit and problem to this post in jpeg format.

Thanks again in advance for any help.

Mike


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Well I merged to the two 20 ohms into one 10ohm and said that the total voltage in any loop equals zero.

so 60=20Ia + 10Ib

and 20=20Ib + 10Ia

I have tried solving this many times and keep getting a negative current for Ib. My original equation must be wrong.

Thanks a lot for any help or input,

Mike
 

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Hi Mike! :smile:
physicsfun_12 said:
… 60=20Ia + 10Ib

and 20=20Ib + 10Ia

Which loop has Ia, and which has Ib, and in which direction? :confused:

And what about Ic ?

(and where do those 20s on the RHS come from?)
 
I think I've got it now.

I was using loop analysis so that's why there is only two currents.

The 20s came from 60=10Ia + 10(Ia+Ib) which expands to give 20Ia + 10Ib

You can work out the currents using simultaneous equations, giving a Ia=3.333A and Ib=-0.6666A

I of the load resistor, Il=Ia+Ib = 2.6667A

So Vl=2.6667*10 = 26.667V

Does this look about right? Thanks a lot for your help

Mike
 
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physicsfun_12 said:
The 20s came from 60=10Ia + 10(Ia+Ib) which expands to give 20Ia + 10Ib

ohhh! you should always state an intermediate step like that :rolleyes:

(apart from anything else, you stand a good chance of making a mistake with ±s if you don't write this stuff out clearly)

Yes, the answer looks ok now. :smile:
 
Sorry about that, you are absolutely right... that's most probably why I was getting it wrong in the first place!

Thanks for your help and take care,

Mike
 

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