Solving an ODE with variable coefficients

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The discussion revolves around solving a second-order ordinary differential equation (ODE) with variable coefficients, specifically of the form y'' = c2 / (x2 + c1*x) * y, where c1 and c2 are constants and x is the variable. Participants are exploring various methods to approach this problem, including power series and the method of Frobenius.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Some participants discuss using the method of Frobenius and regular power series, noting challenges with obtaining a definitive solution. Others suggest multiplying the equation to simplify it and propose alternative series forms. There are inquiries about correlating coefficients and patterns in the series expansions, as well as questions regarding the interpretation of the equation's structure.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing their attempts and results. Some have noted that Maple provides a solution involving hypergeometric functions, prompting further exploration of series expansions. There is no explicit consensus yet, as different interpretations and methods are still being examined.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of the ODE, including the implications of variable coefficients and the potential need for multiple solution forms. There are also considerations regarding the assumptions made in the setup of the problem.

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Homework Statement


Solve the following:
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y'' = c2 / (x2 + c1*x) * y
c1, c2 are constants, x is variable

Homework Equations


As above

The Attempt at a Solution


I have used the method of Frobenius and regular power series and obtained an infinite series on top of an infinite series, which is indefinite. What are the normal methods to solve that ODE? It's not quite in the Frobenius or Bessel forms
 
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I used a regular power series and there was no problem. Just multiply the equation by x^2+c_1 x to get x^2 y''+c_1 x y''-c_2 y=0.
The regular series gives only one of the solutions.So you should also consider a solution of the form y=\sum_{n=0}^\infty a_n x^{n+m}.
 
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c0der said:

Homework Statement


Solve the following:
[/B]
y'' = c2 / (x2 + c1*x) * y
c1, c2 are constants, x is variable

Homework Equations


As above

The Attempt at a Solution


I have used the method of Frobenius and regular power series and obtained an infinite series on top of an infinite series, which is indefinite. What are the normal methods to solve that ODE? It's not quite in the Frobenius or Bessel forms

Maple gets a solution in terms of hypergeometric functions with (variable) argument ##-c_1/x##. Thus, the power-series expansion of Maple's solution will be in powers of ##1/x##, not of ##x## itself.
 
Thank you, I have done this however as follows:

Equating coefficients of x0 gives:
a0=0

For x1:

a2 = c2/2c1

Equating coefficients of xm:

am+1 = [ c2 - (m-1)m ] / [ c1m(m+1) ] am for m>=2

Then:

a3 = [ (c2 - 2) / 3!2!c12 ] a1

a4 = [ (c2 - 6)(c2 - 2)c2 / 4!3!c13 ] a1

a5 = [ (c2 - 12)(c2 - 6)(c2 - 2)c2 / 5!4!c14 ] a1

a6 = [ (c2 - 20)(c2 - 12)(c2 - 6)(c2 - 2)c2 / 6!5!c15 ] a1

How can I correlate this with the hypergeometric series or any other recognizable series? The numerator terms in the brackets have a pattern to it 2+4=6 6+6=12 12+8=20 etc but getting the terms in powers of m is difficult
 
c0der said:
y'' = c2 / (x2 + c1*x) * y
Is that (c2 / (x2 + c1*x)) * y or c2 / ((x2 + c1*x) * y)?
 
(c2 / (x2 + c1x)) * y
 

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