Solving Special Relativity Problem w/ Two Spaceships

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a problem in special relativity involving two spaceships moving in opposite directions and the calculation of their collision time from different reference frames. Participants explore the implications of Lorentz transformations and the perceived discrepancies in the results obtained from different frames of reference.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a scenario where two spaceships are moving at 0.5c towards each other and attempts to calculate the time until they collide from both a stationary observer's frame and the frame of one of the spaceships.
  • The same participant expresses confusion over a perceived inconsistency in the equations derived, particularly regarding the application of the speed of light in the Lorentz transformation.
  • Another participant seeks clarification on the initial conditions of the problem and whether the timing of the experiment's start is consistent across the different frames of reference.
  • A suggestion is made to post the question in a homework forum with a structured template for better clarity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the specific issues with the calculations or the interpretation of the problem, indicating that multiple views and uncertainties remain regarding the application of special relativity in this context.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the clarity of the initial post, which may affect the understanding of the problem. The discussion highlights potential misunderstandings regarding the timing of events in different reference frames and the application of Lorentz transformations.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students studying special relativity, particularly those grappling with frame transformations and collision problems in relativistic contexts.

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Hello there. In class, our teacher solved one question and asked us what did we wrong specifically in the solution because there were two sets of them. Two spaceships are moving through +x and -x and there is a distance L between them. From one observer which is stationary in the line of L/2 sees both spaceships move with 0.5 c and they will collide in some time. We find the collision time dL/dt = -[0.5c+0.5c] = c
and from spaceships' reference frame we find the velocity of the second spaceship with Lorentz transformation by c/1.25 = 0.8 c. The eye which is stationary would see the collision time = L/c and the observer in the spaceship would see this L' x 1.25/c . When we multiply with the gamma factor we got a wrong equality. We solved the problem from a different way but what i could not catch is why the equation did not hold ? I started to think maybe the wrong part is that we write c in Lorentz transformation maybe this is the mistake but i could not find any clues that strongly supported my idea. Thanks you !
 
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I’m sorry, but your post is difficult to parse. It is not clear to me exactly what it is you are asking and exactly what you are finding difficult or paradoxical.
 
I think what you have is a frame in which the ships are each moving at 0.5c in opposite directions. The experiment starts when the ships are ##L## apart in this frame and you determine the time to collision. Then you transform to the rest frame of one of the ships and try to determine the time to collision from the start of the experiment as measured in this frame. Is that correct?

In that case, did you think about where the moving ship is at the same time as the stationary ship thinks the experiment starts?
 
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