Discussion Overview
The discussion centers on the relationship between standard change in entropy and change in entropy, particularly in the context of the Gibbs free energy equation. Participants explore definitions, conditions, and implications of these concepts in thermodynamics.
Discussion Character
- Technical explanation
- Conceptual clarification
- Debate/contested
Main Points Raised
- One participant suggests that the standard change in entropy can be expressed as dS(standard) = q(sys)/T(sys), relating it to the Gibbs free energy equation.
- Another participant counters this by stating that in spontaneous adiabatic reactions, the change in entropy can be positive while the heat exchange q is zero, implying a distinction between standard and actual changes in entropy.
- A question is raised about the difference between change in entropy and standard change in entropy, with a focus on reaction conditions.
- It is clarified that the standard change in entropy refers to conditions where all reactants are in their standard states, such as specific concentrations and pressures.
- Further elaboration indicates that to determine the standard change in entropy, one must consider a reversible process and that the standard change is equal to the integral of dQ/T for that process.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express differing views on the relationship between standard change in entropy and actual change in entropy, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain unresolved.
Contextual Notes
Participants note that the definitions of standard states and the conditions under which entropy changes occur are crucial to understanding the concepts discussed. There is an emphasis on the need for reversible processes in calculating standard changes in entropy.
Who May Find This Useful
This discussion may be of interest to students and professionals in thermodynamics, chemistry, and related fields who are exploring the concepts of entropy and Gibbs free energy.