Suppose a, b, c are three real numbers such that

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution


Should I set a = ax2 b= bx c =c in the character equation?
 
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Hi, you must start to substitute ##y_{1}(x)=x^{r_{1}}## in the differential equation and find ##r_{1}## that satisfy the equation ...,
so start to calculate ##y'_{1}(x)## and ##y_{1}''(x)## ...

The same for ##y_{2}(x)=x^{r_{2}}\ln{x}## ...
 
y1 = xr1
y1' = r1* xr1-1
y1" = r1 (r1-1)* xr1-2 = ( r12 - r1) *xr1-2

then plug in ODE?
 
Then (I simply say r instead of r1)
a(r2-r)xr +b r xr + cxr

xr ( a(r2-r) + b r +c )
And solve for r ?
 
nysnacc said:
Then (I simply say r instead of r1)
a(r2-r)xr +b r xr + cxr

xr ( a(r2-r) + b r +c )
And solve for r ?
You can't solve the above, because they aren't equations!
The equation you need to solve is a(r2-r)xr +b r xr + cxr = 0,
which is equivalent to xr ( a(r2-r) + b r +c ) = 0
Now solve for r.
 
Oh yeah! but I don't know a, b and c... there are four unknowns then
 
nysnacc said:
Oh yeah! but I don't know a, b and c... there are four unknowns then
But you have a relationship involving a, b, and c given in your problem statement.
 
So I solve for r which is r = ... (in terms of a, b, c) probably be -b +/- sqrt (b^2 - 4 ac) / 2a

Then use the relationship involving a, b, and c given in problem statement?

But do I need one more equation?
 
For r1, it is -B/2A which is -(b-a)/2a
Do I end up wth the letter as coefficient, or any further?
 
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nysnacc said:
So I solve for r which is r = ... (in terms of a, b, c) probably be -b +/- sqrt (b^2 - 4 ac) / 2a
No it isn't.

Start from this:
xr ( a(r2-r) + b r +c ) = 0
The part on the left has to be identically equal to zero; i.e., for all values of x.

So either xr = 0 (can't be true)
or a(r2-r) + b r +c = 0
Solve this equation for r.
nysnacc said:
Then use the relationship involving a, b, and c given in problem statement?

But do I need one more equation?
 
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nysnacc said:
For r1, it is -B/2A which is -(b-a)/2a
Do I end up wth the letter as coefficient, or any further?
Yes, this is what I get: r = -(b - a)/(2a), which is the same as (a - b)/(2a)
 
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Great, so this is it, for r1 ?? :)
 
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nysnacc said:
Great, so this is it, for r1 ?? :)
Yes.
 
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For r2,
I have y2 = xr2 ln (x)
y2' = xr2-1 +r2 xr2-1 ln (x)
y2" = (r2-1)xr2-2 +r2 xr2-2 + (r2^2-r2)xr2-2 ln(x)

Which then plug into the ODE, i found r2 = -(b-a)/ 2a same as r1

and whole ODE can be 0 if x =1
 
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