Lightly Damped Simple Harmonic Oscillator Resonant Frequency Formula Explained

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The discussion centers on deriving the fractional change in the resonant frequency of a lightly damped simple harmonic oscillator, expressed as approximately (8Q²)⁻¹. Participants clarify that the resonant frequency formula is ωₘ = ω₀(1 - 1/(2Q²))¹/² and explore its implications. Questions arise regarding the meaning of fractional change and the parameters affecting resonant frequency. A Taylor series expansion is suggested to simplify the expression for small Q values, focusing on how to approximate the square root term. The conversation emphasizes the need for careful manipulation of the formula to arrive at the desired result.
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Homework Statement


Show that the fractional change in the resonant frequency (\Delta \omega/ \omega_{0}) of a lightly damped simple harmonic oscillator is ≈ (8Q^{2})^{-1}.



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Is this a formula for the resonant frequency?
<br /> \omega_{m} = \omega_{0}\left(1 - \frac{1}{2Q^{2}}\right)^{1/2}<br />
How would I use this formula?



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Right now I'm in a place where I'm not sure what this question is asking. I'm trying to move to a situation where I understand what is being asked. What does fractional change in the resonant frequency mean? What parameter is changing that causes the resonant frequency to change?
 
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When Q is infinite, the resonant frequency =ω0

At any practical value of Q, the resonant frequency changes from this a little, and becomes
resonant frequency =ωm as given in that equation.

I'm speculating that they want you to use the first term of a Taylor Series expansion to approx a power of ½ by something to a power of 1.
 
mbigras said:
Is this a formula for the resonant frequency?
<br /> \omega_{m} = \omega_{0}\left(1 - \frac{1}{2Q^{2}}\right)^{1/2}<br />
That formula will not lead to the desired answer. Are you sure it isn't \omega_{m} = \omega_{0}\left(1 - \frac{1}{(2Q)^{2}}\right)^{1/2}? That's what seems to be implied by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_oscillator.
 
so the fractional change means: how far away from \omega_{0} is \omega_{m}? How do I apply the taylor series expansion to this question?
 
Fractional change would be ( ωm - ω0 ) / ω0

See how much you can simplify that expression.
 
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I'm getting
<br /> \left(1-\frac{1}{2Q^{2}}\right)^{1/2}-1<br />
 
mbigras said:
I'm getting
<br /> \left(1-\frac{1}{2Q^{2}}\right)^{1/2}-1<br />
... where Q is large, right? So expand the square root expression according to binomial / Taylor and take the first few terms as an approximation. You'll have to figure out how many terms to take.
 
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thank you very kindly for your help. I see what you mean about how my formula needs parenthesis.
 
mbigras said:
I'm getting
<br /> \left(1-\frac{1}{2Q^{2}}\right)^{1/2}-1<br />
... where Q is large, right? So expand the square root expression according to binomial / Taylor and take the first few terms as an approximation. You'll have to figure out how many terms to take.
 
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