Thermodynamics. Finding specific heat capacity

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The discussion revolves around a thermodynamics problem involving an ideal gas expanding with a constant molar heat capacity, where the work done is 156J and heat added is 125J. The first process is determined to be isobaric due to the non-zero work done, while the second process is isochoric. Participants question whether the problem statement is complete, particularly regarding the assumptions about the first process being adiabatic or reversible. Clarifications are sought about the nature of the gas and the translation of the problem statement, with an emphasis on the constant molar heat capacity not ruling out adiabatic conditions. The conversation highlights the challenges in solving the problem due to potential omissions in the provided information.
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Homework Statement



Ideal gas of point particles is expanding so that its molar heat capacity Cx is constant and the work done by gas is W = 156J. Then the gas is isochorically heated to the initial temperature by receiving the quantity of heat which is Q = 125 J. Find Cx.

Homework Equations



W=pΔV=nRΔT
Q=nCvΔT

The Attempt at a Solution



So first of all, we know that the second process is isochoric. Though we don't know the type of first process. Yet it can't be isochoric, because the work done is not equal to 0. It is also not isothermic, because there is a temperature change. So the first process is isobaric and the molar heat capacity we're looking for is Cp. I managed to derive from the two equations that Cv = A / (QR). Aaand I'm stuck. How do I connect the two molar heat capacities? Are my attempt at solution and assumptions correct?
 
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Hi Rugile. Welcome to Physics Forums.

There seem to be some omissions from the problem statement. Is this the exact wording of the problem statement, or is it your interpretation? Is any mention made of the number of moles of gas? Is any mention made that the first expansion is adiabatic and reversible? Please write out the problem statement exactly as it appears in your book (or whatever).

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Hi and thank you for the greeting :)

This problem statement is in fact translated, though nothing seems to be omitted. Nothing mentioned about the expansion being reversible. Is it incorrect to assume that the first expansion can't be adiabatic as the molar heat capacity during the first process remains constant?

I doubt the original statement would be any help as it was translated. Also I'm pretty sure this is the all information we get from the statement - no moles of gas, nothing else. Is my solution provided in first post incorrect?

Rugile
 
Rugile said:
Hi and thank you for the greeting :)

This problem statement is in fact translated, though nothing seems to be omitted. Nothing mentioned about the expansion being reversible. Is it incorrect to assume that the first expansion can't be adiabatic as the molar heat capacity during the first process remains constant?

I doubt the original statement would be any help as it was translated. Also I'm pretty sure this is the all information we get from the statement - no moles of gas, nothing else. Is my solution provided in first post incorrect?

Rugile
I don't know. We must have lost something in the translation. Incidentally, just because the molar heat capacity is constant doesn't mean that the process isn't adiabatic.
 
Chestermiller said:
I don't know. We must have lost something in the translation. Incidentally, just because the molar heat capacity is constant doesn't mean that the process isn't adiabatic.

Well we also know that the gas is made up of single (individual) atoms. But we don't know what atoms. Nothing can be lost, I checked it like a hundred times.
 
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