Thermodynamics help Ideal gas equation

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The discussion focuses on determining the values of R and a from the ideal gas equation using provided measurements of pressure and volume for a dilute gas at two temperatures. The calculated value of R is found to be 0.0820 L atm/C, which is confirmed through the difference in the two equations derived from the ideal gas law. The variable "a" is identified as 273.15, representing the conversion from Celsius to Kelvin. Participants clarify that T represents absolute temperature in Kelvin, while t(°C) is the temperature in Celsius. Ultimately, the calculations lead to the conclusion that a equals 280.24, though there is uncertainty regarding the units.
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Homework Statement



Suppose that you measured the product pV of 1 mol of a dilute gas and found
that pV = 22.98 L atm at 0°C and 31.18 L atm at 100°C. Assume that the perfect gas law
is valid, with T = t(°C) + a, and that the value of R is not known.

Determine R and a from the measurements provided. Express your result for R in J K

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Homework Equations



PV = nRT
T = t(°C) + a

The Attempt at a Solution


Ok I answered the first part:
R = slope = (31.18 - 22.98 / 100 - 0 )
= 0.082 L atm C

what is a ??how do I find it??
 
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What temperature scale should be used in the ideal gas equation?
 
What do you mean?
 
What temperature scales do you know?
 
ohh well we usually do it in Kelvin, but the question asks for Celsius, so I guess we don't have to convert anything, no?
 
How do you convert between C and K? What is "a"?

Note, your R value looks correct, but you are just lucky - "a" canceled out.
 
C= value of Temp in C + 273.15 = value in K

I have no idea what "a" is.

I don't understand the meaning behind the given equation: T = t(°C) + a

What's t(°C) ? and how are we supposed to use it to determine "a"?

I'm so lost. :(
 
It is so simpe that you will feel ashamed once you will get it :smile: Compare two equations that you have wrote:

temp in K = temp in C + 273.15

T = t(°C) + a

Note, that T means absolute temperature (Kelvins), while t(°C) means temperature in Celsius degrees. Do you see that it is the same equation?
 
haha ok, so a is 273.15

so you're basically saying,

PV = n R (t(°C) + a)

1) 22.98 = nRa
2) 31.18 = nR(100 + a)

If we do 2-1

31.18 - 22.98 = 100Rn + nRa - nRa
8.20 = 100R (1 mol)
R = 0.0820 L atm C

and if we plug back into one of the equations,
we get 22.98 L atm= (1mol) (0.0820L atm C)a

a = 280.24 C ?
is this our right unit?
 
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