Time Dilation on 3D Torus: Clock Speed & Why It Matters

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of special relativity in a flat 3-torus space, specifically looking at the case of a clock traveling at a constant speed parallel to the torus compared to a stationary clock. It is explained that for special relativity to apply, the space needs to be completely flat, and the example of a 1+1 cylinder is used to illustrate how this affects the ticking rate of clocks. It is also mentioned that the geometry of the torus introduces a preferred frame, making it debatable whether special relativity fully applies in this scenario.
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Does special relativity apply to an object moving in constant velocity parallel to a torus?
Assume that space is a three-dimensional torus ( a 3D donut) . If there is a clock traveling at a CONSTANT speed in a direction parallel to the torus (inside out of the hole) and one clock that is still. Which clock ticks faster and why?

I know that the clock rotating will tick slower, but I cannot understand why it happens to do so if it's speed is constant.
I would greatly appreciate your input!
 
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appot89 said:
Assume that space is a three-dimensional torus ( a 3D donut) .
For special relativity to apply, it has to be a flat 3-torus. SR only applies if the spacetime geometry is flat. It is possible to have a flat geometry with a 3-torus spatial topology, but it won't be like what you are imagining. See below.

appot89 said:
Which clock ticks faster and why?
A simpler case to analyze is the 1+1 spacetime in which the spatial topology is a circle. In other words, the spacetime as a whole has the topology of a cylinder. Everything about this case carries over to the flat 3-torus case.

The nice thing about the 1+1 cylinder case, though, is that you can simply "flatten out" the cylinder without changing its geometry (since an ordinary cylinder already has a flat intrinsic geometry--it only looks curved because of how it is embedded in 3-D Euclidean space, but nothing about that embedding affects how we analyze the 1+1 cylinder spacetime). When you "flatten out" the cylinder, you see that, unlike the ordinary 1+1 Minkowski spacetime (which has an ordinary infinite plane topology), the 1+1 cylinder spacetime has a "preferred frame": the inertial frame whose spatial axis is a closed circle going around the cylinder (and which thus is exactly "horizontal" when the cylinder is flattened out). An observer at rest in this frame will have the fastest ticking clock (more precisely, will age more between meetings with any other observer in relative motion), and this observer's worldline will go "straight up" the cylinder (and will be exactly "vertical" when the cylinder is flattened out).

Any other observer in relative motion will have a worldline that winds around the cylinder, and the "spatial axis" of such an observer's rest frame will not be a closed circle, but a helix (and in fact this poses some technical issues when defining coordinates in such a frame). This should be evident from looking at how such a frame's axes look in the "flattened out" version, and then "rolling up" that flattened out picture into a cylinder again.
 
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PeterDonis said:
For special relativity to apply, it has to be a flat 3-torus. SR only applies if the spacetime geometry is flat.
I’d even say SR does not apply to a flat torus as the geometry introduces a preferred frame. SR in my mind only applies to Minkowski space.
 
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Although the flat torus is flat, I’d argue it’s not quite special relativity unless you have R^4 or restrict to a region of the torus where you don’t see the finite size of the spatial part.
 

1. What is time dilation on a 3D torus?

Time dilation on a 3D torus refers to the difference in the passage of time between two points on the surface of a three-dimensional torus. This is caused by the warping of space-time due to the toroidal shape of the torus.

2. How does clock speed affect time dilation on a 3D torus?

The clock speed at any given point on the surface of a 3D torus determines the rate at which time passes at that point. The faster the clock speed, the slower time will pass compared to a point with a slower clock speed.

3. Why does time dilation matter on a 3D torus?

Time dilation is an important concept in understanding the effects of gravity and motion on the passage of time. On a 3D torus, it can affect the synchronization of clocks and impact the accuracy of time measurements.

4. How is time dilation on a 3D torus different from other shapes or objects?

Time dilation on a 3D torus is unique due to the toroidal shape, which causes the warping of space-time in a different way compared to other shapes or objects. This results in a different pattern of time dilation on the surface of the torus.

5. Can time dilation on a 3D torus be observed in real life?

Yes, time dilation on a 3D torus has been observed in experiments such as the Hafele-Keating experiment, which demonstrated the effects of time dilation on clocks in motion. It is also taken into account in the operation of GPS satellites, which experience time dilation due to their high speeds and orbital paths.

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