Tricky Integration with Trig Substitution

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves evaluating the integral \(\int(4-y)\sqrt{4-y^{2}}dy\) using trigonometric substitution. The original poster expresses difficulty in applying known trigonometric methods and seeks assistance in identifying the appropriate identity for manual evaluation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • One participant suggests substituting \(y=2\sin(t)\) as a potential starting point. Another participant reflects on the complications encountered when reverting to the original variable, expressing uncertainty about the outcome of this substitution.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different substitution methods and questioning the effectiveness of their approaches. Guidance has been offered regarding the need to show steps for further assistance, indicating a collaborative effort to navigate the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of integrating after substitution and the potential for confusion when converting back to the original variable. There is an acknowledgment of the need for careful handling of trigonometric identities and integration techniques.

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Homework Statement



Evaluate.

\int(4-y)\sqrt{4-y^{2}}dy

I have the solution using CAS software here:

2y\sqrt{4-y^{2}}+8sin^{-1}\frac{y}{2}+\frac{1}{3}(4-y^{2})^{3/2}


but I need to do this by hand. I have researched the usual trig methods but am having some difficulty. Can someone please help me find the right identity?
 
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Substituting y=2*sin(t) looks like a good starting point.
 
I don't think it goes anywhere though, I get:

8cos(t)-4sin(t)cos(t)

when it comes time to bring the original variable back in I get a mess of cos(arcsin(y/2)) but maybe I am missing something
 
bjohnson2001 said:
I don't think it goes anywhere though, I get:

8cos(t)-4sin(t)cos(t)

when it comes time to bring the original variable back in I get a mess of cos(arcsin(y/2)) but maybe I am missing something

If y=2*sin(t) then dy=2*cos(t)dt. I think you are forgetting that. And yes, it does take some work to integrate. If you make a try at it and show your steps I'm sure someone will try to help.
 

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