Trying to prove trigonometric integrals on a quarter of circle

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Homework Statement


I want to prove that:
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Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried using the trigonometric identity:
sen2x = senx cosx / 2, so, I got:

1/2m∫(sen2x)mdx, x from 0 to pi/2, but now I don't know how to proceed. Can you help me please?
 
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supermiedos said:

Homework Statement


I want to prove that:
Ra5QUaH.png

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried using the trigonometric identity:
sen2x = senx cosx / 2, so, I got:

1/2m∫(sen2x)mdx, x from 0 to pi/2, but now I don't know how to proceed. Can you help me please?
Is m an integer? Is m a positive integer? These should be stated as part of the problem statement. Assuming that m is a nonnegative integer, I think you need to break up the problem into two cases: 1) m is an even integer; 2) m is an odd integer.

For the first case (m is even), convert all of the sine factors on the left side to cosines, using ##sin^2(x) = 1 - cos^2(x)##. At that point you can use your double angle formula.
For the second case (m is odd), convert all but one of the sine factors on the left side to cosines, as above. The left-over sine factor can be used in an ordinary substitution.
 
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Mark44 said:
Is m an integer? Is m a positive integer? These should be stated as part of the problem statement. Assuming that m is a nonnegative integer, I think you need to break up the problem into two cases: 1) m is an even integer; 2) m is an odd integer.

For the first case (m is even), convert all of the sine factors on the left side to cosines, using ##sin^2(x) = 1 - cos^2(x)##. At that point you can use your double angle formula.
For the second case (m is odd), convert all but one of the sine factors on the left side to cosines, as above. The left-over sine factor can be used in an ordinary substitution.

Thank you for your response. As you said, the problem should have stated the "nature" of m. I tried first using your suggestion when m is odd. This is my procedure, but I got stuck:

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But I don't know what to do next.
 
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Ah, the perils of giving advice when you haven't worked the problem...

Your original thought might be the way to go, since ## \cos^m(x) \sin^m(x) dx = (\cos x \cdot \sin x)^m = \frac 1 {2^m} \sin^m(2x)##. Then, if you can show that the integral of this function equals the integral on the right side of what you're trying to prove, then you're done. At the moment, I don't see how to do this, but I'll give it some thought.
 
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Mark44 said:
Ah, the perils of giving advice when you haven't worked the problem...

Your original thought might be the way to go, since ## \cos^m(x) \sin^m(x) dx = (\cos x \cdot \sin x)^m = \frac 1 {2^m} \sin^m(2x)##. Then, if you can show that the integral of this function equals the integral on the right side of what you're trying to prove, then you're done. At the moment, I don't see how to do this, but I'll give it some thought.

Hehe, don't worry. I was trying to use geometric arguments (showing that the area below sin^m(2x) equals the area belos cos^m(x), from 0 to pi/2). I can't see the way, also. Thank you for your help
 
I think two applications of integration by parts on ##\int \sin^m(2x)dx## might be fruitful. I'm giving this a shot right now
 
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supermiedos said:

Homework Statement


I want to prove that:
Ra5QUaH.png

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried using the trigonometric identity:
sen2x = senx cosx / 2, so, I got:

1/2m∫(sen2x)mdx, x from 0 to pi/2, but now I don't know how to proceed. Can you help me please?
It seems like you should be able to use some sort of symmetry argument to change the sine into a cosine in your last integral.

Perhaps try something like ##\cos x = \sin(x+\frac{\pi}{2})##.
 
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@supermiedos: After applying the double angle formula, you are wanting to show$$
\int_0^{\frac {\pi}2}\sin^m(2x)~dx=\int_0^{\frac {\pi}2}\cos^m(x)~dx$$
Let ##u=2x## in the left integral, we get$$
\int_0^{\frac {\pi}2}\sin^m(2x)~dx=\frac 1 2 \int_0^{\pi}\sin^m(u)~du$$Since the sine function is symmetric about ##\frac{\pi} 2## on the interval ##[0,\pi]##, we have$$
\int_0^{\pi}\sin^m(u)~du = 2\int_0^{\frac{\pi} 2}\sin^m(u)~du$$Putting this together gives$$
\int_0^{\frac {\pi}2}\sin^m(2x)~dx=\int_0^{\frac{\pi} 2}\sin^m(u)~du=\int_0^{\frac{\pi} 2}\sin^m(x)~dx$$
And, finally, by symmetry$$
\int_0^{\frac{\pi} 2}\sin^m(x)~dx=\int_0^{\frac {\pi}2}\cos^m(x)~dx$$
That should do it unless I've overlooked something. (I know, I'm taking a chance by assuming this isn't actually a homework problem).
 
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Mark44 said:
I think two applications of integration by parts on ##\int \sin^m(2x)dx## might be fruitful. I'm giving this a shot right now
I tried it, but gotten nowhere
 
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vela said:
It seems like you should be able to use some sort of symmetry argument to change the sine into a cosine in your last integral.

Perhaps try something like ##\cos x = \sin(x+\frac{\pi}{2})##.
Thank you, I also tried it, but I got stuck
 
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@supermiedos: After applying the double angle formula, you are wanting to show$$
\int_0^{\frac {\pi}2}\sin^m(2x)~dx=\int_0^{\frac {\pi}2}\cos^m(x)~dx$$
Let ##u=2x## in the left integral, we get$$
\int_0^{\frac {\pi}2}\sin^m(2x)~dx=\frac 1 2 \int_0^{\pi}\sin^m(u)~du$$Since the sine function is symmetric about ##\frac{\pi} 2## on the interval ##[0,\pi]##, we have$$
\int_0^{\pi}\sin^m(u)~du = 2\int_0^{\frac{\pi} 2}\sin^m(u)~du$$Putting this together gives$$
\int_0^{\frac {\pi}2}\sin^m(2x)~dx=\int_0^{\frac{\pi} 2}\sin^m(u)~du=\int_0^{\frac{\pi} 2}\sin^m(x)~dx$$
And, finally, by symmetry$$
\int_0^{\frac{\pi} 2}\sin^m(x)~dx=\int_0^{\frac {\pi}2}\cos^m(x)~dx$$
That should do it unless I've overlooked something. (I know, I'm taking a chance by assuming this isn't actually a homework problem).

Amazing! Thank you! I understood all steps, except one. How can I prove your last statement? Using symetry?

And don't worry, it's not homework. I'm self studying mathematics :)
 
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supermiedos said:
Thank you, I also tried it, but I got stuck
You can use the identity to show that
$$\int_0^\pi \sin^m u\,du = \int_{-\pi/2}^{\pi/2} \cos^m u\,du$$ and then use the symmetry of cosine to get the integral you want.
 
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supermiedos said:
Amazing! Thank you! I understood all steps, except one. How can I prove your last statement? Using symetry?

And don't worry, it's not homework. I'm self studying mathematics :)
Use ##\sin x = \cos(\frac {\pi} 2 - x)## and do the obvious ##u## substitution.
 
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Thank you, both of you. I got it :)
 
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