Two conducting cables - Gauss' Law

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The discussion focuses on applying Gauss' Law to determine the electric field at a point 61 mm from the axis of a coaxial cable with given linear charge densities. Participants highlight the need for symmetry in choosing a Gaussian surface, noting that cylindrical symmetry applies rather than spherical symmetry. The challenge lies in encompassing both the inner and outer conductors within a single Gaussian surface while maintaining this symmetry. There is a consensus that the electric field can be calculated by considering the total enclosed charge and using the appropriate Gaussian surface. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the geometry of the problem to effectively apply Gauss' Law.
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Homework Statement



The cross section of a long coaxial cable is shown in the figure, with radii as given. The linear charge density on the inner conductor is -80 nC/m and the linear charge density on the outer conductor is -10 nC/m. The inner and outer cylindrical surfaces are respectively denoted by A, B, C, and D, as shown. (ε 0 = 8.85 × 10-12 C2/N · m2) What is the magnitude of the electric field at a point that is 61 mm from the axis?

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Homework Equations



Electric Flux = ∫E dot dA = Qencl/ε 0

The Attempt at a Solution



Honestly I have no clue how to start this problem. From the problem, it looks like you need to use Gauss' Law to calculate the electric field, but in order to use Gauss' Law, don't you need electric field lines that penetrate the Gaussian surface with symmetry? These appear to be circular cylinders and would hit, a sphere for example, at different directions across the surface. The magnitude would be different at different points of the sphere, making for a difficult integral. If I were to start, then I suppose you would need to convert the charge density into total charge. In this case, the charge density of the inner conductor is -80nC/m. Since charge density is charge/area, then the total charge would be -80nC * surface area of the inner conductor which would be 2∏(1mm) * 2∏(28mm)?
 
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kbwelch17 said:

Homework Statement



The cross section of a long coaxial cable is shown in the figure, with radii as given. The linear charge density on the inner conductor is -80 nC/m and the linear charge density on the outer conductor is -10 nC/m. The inner and outer cylindrical surfaces are respectively denoted by A, B, C, and D, as shown. (ε 0 = 8.85 × 10-12 C2/N · m2) What is the magnitude of the electric field at a point that is 61 mm from the axis?

2lxtlas.png


Homework Equations



Electric Flux = ∫E dot dA = Qencl/ε 0

The Attempt at a Solution



Honestly I have no clue how to start this problem. From the problem, it looks like you need to use Gauss' Law to calculate the electric field, but in order to use Gauss' Law, don't you need electric field lines that penetrate the Gaussian surface with symmetry? These appear to be circular cylinders and would hit, a sphere for example, at different directions across the surface. The magnitude would be different at different points of the sphere, making for a difficult integral. If I were to start, then I suppose you would need to convert the charge density into total charge. In this case, the charge density of the inner conductor is -80nC/m. Since charge density is charge/area, then the total charge would be -80nC * surface area of the inner conductor which would be 2∏(1mm) * 2∏(28mm)?
Spherical symmetry isn't the only type of symmetry. You have cylindrical symmetry in this case. If you were to rotate the system around the axis, nothing really changes, right?
 
Ah, so the Gaussian surface you would use around each is a circular cylinder?
 
Exactly.
 
I am still a little lost on this problem. I am trying to use a Gaussian surface at a distance of 61mm. How can you encompass both cylinders with one Gaussian surface while preserving symmetry?
 
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