Upward Acceleration of Hanging Mass Connected Pulley

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The discussion focuses on calculating the upward acceleration of a block (m2) connected to another block (m1) via a pulley system, with specific forces and parameters provided. The equations of motion for both blocks are established, incorporating tension and torque relationships. A discrepancy in the calculated acceleration led to a reevaluation of the tension forces, confirming that T1 must be greater than T2 for m2 to accelerate upward. The correct formula for acceleration was identified as a = (Fcos(theta) - m2g)/(m2 + m1 + m/2), leading to a final answer of 2.68 m/s². The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly analyzing the forces and torques in the system.
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Homework Statement


A 27.1 kg block (m1) is on a horizontal surface, connected to a 6.70 kg block (m2) by a massless string as shown in the figure below. The frictionless pulley has a radius R = 0.097 m and a moment of inertia I=0.070 kgm2. A force F = 213.7 N acts on m1 at an angle theta = 34.5°. There is no friction between m1 and the surface. What is the upward acceleration of m2?

Homework Equations


Torque = F x R
Torque = I x alpha
a = R x alpha
I = 1/2 m x R^2

The Attempt at a Solution


Block 1 : Fcos(theta) - T1 = m1a T1 = Fcos(theta) - m1a (opposite direction of accereration)
Block 2 : T2 - m2g = m2a T2 = m2a + m2g (in the direction of accleration)

Torque = (T2-T1)R = I x (a/R)
(m2a + m2g - Fcos(theta) + m1a)R = 1/2 m x R^2 x (a/R)
m2a + m2g - Fcos(theta) + m1a = (m x R^2 x a)/(2 x R^2) R^2 cancel out
m2a + m2g - Fcos(theta) + m1a = (m x a)/2
m2a + m1a - (m x a)/2 = Fcos(theta) - m2g
a (m2 + m1 - m/2) = Fcos(theta) - m2g
a = (Fcos(theta) - m2g)/(m2 + m1 - m/2) -----------------> A
a = (213.7cos(34.5) - 6.7*9.81)/ (6.7 + 27.1 - 17.88/2)
a = (110.39/26.36)
a= 4.187m/s^2

I know that the answer is 2.68m/s^2 and that the equation A should be

a = (Fcos(theta) - m2g)/(m2 + m1 + m/2)

But i don't know how to get that...
 

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MissBisson said:

Homework Statement


A 27.1 kg block (m1) is on a horizontal surface, connected to a 6.70 kg block (m2) by a massless string as shown in the figure below. The frictionless pulley has a radius R = 0.097 m and a moment of inertia I=0.070 kgm2. A force F = 213.7 N acts on m1 at an angle theta = 34.5°. There is no friction between m1 and the surface. What is the upward acceleration of m2?

Homework Equations


Torque = F x R
Torque = I x alpha
a = R x alpha
I = 1/2 m x R^2

The Attempt at a Solution


Block 1 : Fcos(theta) - T1 = m1a T1 = Fcos(theta) - m1a (opposite direction of accereration)
Block 2 : T2 - m2g = m2a T2 = m2a + m2g (in the direction of accleration)

Torque = (T2-T1)R = I x (a/R)
If m2 is supposed to accelerate upwards then m1 must be accelerating leftwards, right? That means the pulley should be accelerating counter clockwise. That would make T1 > T2 if you want to maintain the assumption of m2 accelerating upwards. So, rearrange your T1 and T2 in the above and redo from there.
I know that the answer is 2.68m/s^2 and that the equation A should be
Strange, that's not the value that I get. Let's see how you do and then we can compare notes :)
 
gneill said:
If m2 is supposed to accelerate upwards then m1 must be accelerating leftwards, right? That means the pulley should be accelerating counter clockwise. That would make T1 > T2 if you want to maintain the assumption of m2 accelerating upwards. So, rearrange your T1 and T2 in the above and redo from there.

Strange, that's not the value that I get. Let's see how you do and then we can compare notes :)

When I did

Torque = (T1-T2)R = I x (a/R)

It worked out perfectly :) thank you
 
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