Valence band and Fermi level difference?

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The discussion revolves around the differences between the valence band and the Fermi level in the context of solid-state physics. Participants explore definitions, implications at different temperatures, and the relationship between these concepts in metals and semiconductors.

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  • Some participants describe the valence band as the energy below which there are available states for electrons, while the conduction band is above this energy, separated by a band gap.
  • Others define the Fermi level as the energy at which the probability of a state being occupied is 1/2, noting that this definition can vary with temperature.
  • A participant questions the definition of the Fermi level as the topmost filled level in the ground state of an N electron system, suggesting that this may not apply in all contexts, particularly in semiconductors.
  • Some participants clarify that at zero temperature, all states below the Fermi level are filled, while those above are empty, which may differ in metals compared to semiconductors.

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Participants express differing views on the definitions and implications of the Fermi level, particularly regarding its relationship to the valence band and its interpretation at different temperatures. No consensus is reached on a single definition or understanding.

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There are unresolved aspects regarding the definitions of the Fermi level and its application in different materials, as well as the implications of temperature on these concepts.

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I was wondering what the difference was between the valence band and fermi level? How do we distinguish between the two?

Thanks in advance.
 
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They are very different things. The valence band is the energy below which there are available states for electrons to occupy. Similarly the conduction band is the energy above which there are available states. Between these two is the energy gap, where there are no (or very few) available states. The Fermi level is the energy at which the probability of a state being occupied is 1/2. In the diagram below, for example, E_V is the valence band, E_C is the conduction band, and E_F is the Fermi level.

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phyzguy said:
They are very different things. The valence band is the energy below which there are available states for electrons to occupy. Similarly the conduction band is the energy above which there are available states. Between these two is the energy gap, where there are no (or very few) available states. The Fermi level is the energy at which the probability of a state being occupied is 1/2. In the diagram below, for example, E_V is the valence band, E_C is the conduction band, and E_F is the Fermi level.

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Thanks for your response.

You say "The valence band is the energy below which there are available states for electrons to occupy" but my my Lecturer described the fermi level as the topmost filled level in the ground state of an N electron system, are these two different definitions?
 
At zero temperature all of the states below Ef will be filled and all the states above Ef will be empty. So in a metal for example, where Ef lies within a region where there are states to occupy, what your instructor said would be true. But typically Ef in a semiconductor lies within the band gap where there are no available states. So I don't think it is true to say it represents the topmost filled state. At non-zero temperature, I think the best definition is what I said. It is the energy at which the probability of a state being occupied is 1/2.
 
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phyzguy said:
At zero temperature all of the states below Ef will be filled and all the states above Ef will be empty. So in a metal for example, where Ef lies within a region where there are states to occupy, what your instructor said would be true. But typically Ef in a semiconductor lies within the band gap where there are no available states. So I don't think it is true to say it represents the topmost filled state. At non-zero temperature, I think the best definition is what I said. It is the energy at which the probability of a state being occupied is 1/2.
That makes sense. Thanks very much.
 

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