Vector calculus- region-density-mass

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The discussion focuses on solving a vector calculus problem involving mass and density in a defined region. Participants emphasize the importance of accurately sketching the three-dimensional shape of the region based on the given ranges of x, y, and z. The equation for density must account for its position dependence, requiring the use of the differential form dm = ρ dV and a triple integral to find total mass. Clarification is sought on whether the entire rectangular region or just a specific triangular section should be considered for calculations. Accurate representation of the region and understanding the density function are crucial for solving the problem effectively.
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I am not sure what equation to use for the volume[/B]
 

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The attempt that you posted is too small and I cannot click on it to get a better view. But from what I can see, I suggest the following.
1. Understand, from the ranges of x, y and z given by you, the shape of the region you are interested in. In other words, answer the first question and sketch the region. In your graph, you only showed a few isolated points. You did not sketch the region in space.
2. The relevant equation posted by you is not adequate. Density = mass / volume is good only if the density is constant. In your case, the density depends on position (your equation: ρ = 1 + z). Then you must use the differential form:

dm = ρ dV,

and integrate this to get the total mass. It will be a triple integral.
 
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Chandra Prayaga said:
The attempt that you posted is too small and I cannot click on it to get a better view. But from what I can see, I suggest the following.
1. Understand, from the ranges of x, y and z given by you, the shape of the region you are interested in. In other words, answer the first question and sketch the region. In your graph, you only showed a few isolated points. You did not sketch the region in space.
2. The relevant equation posted by you is not adequate. Density = mass / volume is good only if the density is constant. In your case, the density depends on position (your equation: ρ = 1 + z). Then you must use the differential form:

dm = ρ dV,

and integrate this to get the total mass. It will be a triple integral.
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I hope you can see the picture better now. I was wondering if I need the whole rectangle as a region or just the purple triangle that I sketched there?
 

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I guess it is just the triangle, because we have
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Is my final equation ok?
 

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Jozefina Gramatikova said:
I was wondering if I need the whole rectangle as a region or just the purple triangle that I sketched there?
Your sketch is nowhere close to being right. It is a three dimensional solid.
What is the range of z? For some arbitrary z in that range, what does the XY lamina look like?
 
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