Vector multiplication in static equilibrium

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The discussion revolves around a static equilibrium problem involving a uniform boom, a support cable, and a hanging weight. Participants are exploring the concepts of torque and tension in the context of forces acting on the boom at specific angles.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are attempting to understand the relationship between horizontal tension and vertical distance in calculating torque. Questions are raised about the definition of moment arms and the components of forces involved in the torque calculation.

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Some participants express confusion regarding the calculation of torque using horizontal tension and vertical distances, while others provide clarifications on the components of forces and their respective moment arms. There is an indication of progress as one participant acknowledges understanding after receiving guidance.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework problem, which may limit the information available for discussion. The original poster mentions having an answer but lacking understanding of the underlying principles.

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Homework Statement


A 1 200-N uniform boom at 65 degrees to the vertical is
supported by a cable at an angle of 25 degrees to the horizontal
. The boom is pivoted at the bottom, and an object of weight = 2 000 N
hangs from its top. Find the tension in the support
cable

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I have the answer but I just don't understand how it works

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What does blue square time red square mean? The red square means horizontal tension and the blue square means the vertical distance between the cable attaching point and the ground (as shown in the diagram below), why do you multiply them with each other?
20150912_235957.jpg
 
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Zynoakib said:

Homework Statement


A 1 200-N uniform boom at 65 degrees to the vertical is
supported by a cable at an angle of 25 degrees to the horizontal
. The boom is pivoted at the bottom, and an object of weight = 2 000 N
hangs from its top. Find the tension in the support
cable

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I have the answer but I just don't understand how it works

image.jpg


What does blue square time red square mean? The red square means horizontal tension and the blue square means the vertical distance between the cable attaching point and the ground (as shown in the diagram below), why do you multiply them with each other?
20150912_235957.jpg

Do you understand how to calculate the moment of a force about the pivot point of the boom?
 
SteamKing said:
Do you understand how to calculate the moment of a force about the pivot point of the boom?

Net torque = 0
Tension from the cable = the hanging weight
like this? I don't know.

I don't understand how you can calculate the torque just by using horizontal tension and the vertical distance instead of a force that is perpendicular to the surface.
 
Zynoakib said:
Net torque = 0
Tension from the cable = the hanging weight
like this? I don't know.

I don't understand how you can calculate the torque just by using horizontal tension and the vertical distance instead of a force that is perpendicular to the surface.
What surface? You're trying to calculate the torque created on the beam by the tension in the cable, which has two parts:

1. The moment arm is the vertical distance (3 * L / 4) * sin(65°) between the attachment point of the cable and the pivot, and the force is the horizontal component of the tension in the cable, T*cos(25°).

2. The moment arm is the horizontal separation of the attachment point of the cable to the boom and the pivot point, (3 * L / 4) * cos(65°), and the force is the vertical component of the cable tension, T * sin (25°).

The calculation of the total torque about the boom pivot is split in this manner due to the definition of the moment of a force about an axis of rotation.

In the diagram below, the moment of the force F about O is M = F × d:

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SteamKing said:
What surface? You're trying to calculate the torque created on the beam by the tension in the cable, which has two parts:

1. The moment arm is the vertical distance (3 * L / 4) * sin(65°) between the attachment point of the cable and the pivot, and the force is the horizontal component of the tension in the cable, T*cos(25°).

2. The moment arm is the horizontal separation of the attachment point of the cable to the boom and the pivot point, (3 * L / 4) * cos(65°), and the force is the vertical component of the cable tension, T * sin (25°).

The calculation of the total torque about the boom pivot is split in this manner due to the definition of the moment of a force about an axis of rotation.

In the diagram below, the moment of the force F about O is M = F × d:

IMG00002.GIF

ok I have finally get it. Thanks!
 

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