Engineering What are the implications of Thevenin equivalent circuits on circuit behavior?

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The discussion centers on the implications of Thevenin equivalent circuits in simplifying circuit analysis while maintaining output characteristics. Participants clarify that Thevenin equivalents can apply to both resistive and reactive circuits, emphasizing that the behavior of components like resistors and inductors may differ when simplified. It is noted that the essential criterion for a Thevenin equivalent is that the rest of the circuit cannot detect any difference in behavior. The conversation also touches on the importance of considering load impedance for maximum power transfer in AC circuits. Overall, understanding Thevenin equivalents is crucial for effective circuit analysis and design.
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Hiya, this is my first time posting so apologies for any errors in formatting. :oldsmile:
I am confused as to whether when Thevenising a portion of a circuit is it to simplify BUT provide the same output characteristics, meaning the workings of the Thevenin part of the circuit may behave completely differently to the original circuit?

I have an example which may explain this better (hopefully it attached, if not here's a link http://imgur.com/VGa0TI5 ) by Thevenising the left hand side initially I assumed it would make the question easier but the answers turn out to be different when concerning the resistor in particular, is this because the Inductor 'sees' the same characteristics as before but the resistor behaves differently?

Many Thanks
 
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Mjmuk said:
Hiya, this is my first time posting so apologies for any errors in formatting. :oldsmile:
I am confused as to whether when Thevenising a portion of a circuit is it to simplify BUT provide the same output characteristics, meaning the workings of the Thevenin part of the circuit may behave completely differently to the original circuit?
If the "Thevenin equivalent" is not exactly equivalent as far as the rest of the circuit is concerned, then it is not equivalent, so not a Thevenin equivalent. How it works internally is irrelevant as long as the rest of the circuit can't tell the difference.

As far as I am aware, Thevenin equivalents are for resistive circuits, not reactive circuits.
 
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phinds said:
As far as I am aware, Thevenin equivalents are for resistive circuits, not reactive circuits.
I believe Thevenin equivalents are also for reactive circuits.(e.g. In case of ac circuits, maximum power is transferred to the load if the load impedance is complex conjugate of the Thevenin impedance viewed from the load terminals.)
The circuit shown in the OP can be reduced to its Thevenin equivalent.
 
cnh1995 said:
I believe Thevenin equivalents are also for reactive circuits.(e.g. In case of ac circuits, maximum power is transferred to the load if the load impedance is complex conjugate of the Thevenin impedance viewed from the load terminals.)
The circuit shown in the OP can be reduced to its Thevenin equivalent.
OK, it's been a very long time since I took EE and if I ever knew that I had forgotten it. Thanks.
 
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The Norton source can be replaced by its Thevenin equivalent. A source transformation will do. To find the time constant, effective R and L need to be in series.
 

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