What is meant by compex dimension? (Abstract algebra)

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The discussion revolves around the concept of complex dimension in the context of vector spaces within abstract algebra. Participants are exploring the implications of defining dimensions based on different scalar fields, specifically focusing on complex versus real numbers.

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  • Participants are questioning the definition of complex dimension and its relationship to the number of independent complex numbers. There are discussions about the implications of viewing complex numbers as real vectors and the resulting dimensions over different fields.

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Several participants have provided insights into the dimensionality of vector spaces over different fields, noting that while a complex number has two independent components when viewed as a real vector, it retains a single dimension over the complex field. There is an ongoing exploration of these concepts, with no explicit consensus reached.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the subject, indicating a need for clarification on foundational concepts related to vector spaces and dimensions. The discussion includes references to specific examples and definitions that may require further elaboration.

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Homework Statement
Show that the set of n:th order complex polynomials
Pn ≡{a0 +a1z+a2z2 +···+anzn|a0,a1,...,an ∈Cn}
is a vector space. What is its (complex) dimension?
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Pn ≡{a0 +a1z+a2z2 +···+anzn|a0,a1,...,an ∈Cn}
picture since the text is a little hard to read
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i have no problem showing this is a vector space, but what is meant by complex dimension?
Is it just the number on independent complex numbers, so n?
 
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Do you know how the dimension of a vector space is defined? It involves linear (in-)dependency and therefore the underlying scalar field. E.g. ##\mathbb{C}\cdot [\vec{1}]## is a complex line, hence one-dimensional. But if we consider ##[\vec{1}]## as a real vector, what is the dimension of ##\mathbb{R}\cdot [\vec{1}]##?
 
There are two independent scalars in a complex number. So does that mean 2n.
 
fresh_42 said:
Do you know how the dimension of a vector space is defined? It involves linear (in-)dependency and therefore the underlying scalar field. E.g. ##\mathbb{C}\cdot [\vec{1}]## is a complex line, hence one-dimensional. But if we consider ##[\vec{1}]## as a real vector, what is the dimension of ##\mathbb{R}\cdot [\vec{1}]##?
Ineedhelpimbadatphys said:
There are two independent scalars in a complex number. So does that mean 2n.
Sorry, this was supposed to be a reply. Im really not understanding the subject so sorry for simple questions.
 
Ineedhelpimbadatphys said:
There are two independent scalars in a complex number. So does that mean 2n.
No. It only means ##2n## over the reals! It is still ##n## over the complex numbers.

If we write a complex number ##a+\mathrm{i} b## as real vector ##(a,b)## then we get
$$
\dim_\mathbb{R} \left\{\mathbb{R}\cdot\begin{pmatrix}a\\0\end{pmatrix}\oplus \mathbb{R}\cdot\begin{pmatrix}0\\b\end{pmatrix}\right\}=2\, , \,\dim_\mathbb{R} \mathbb{R}\cdot\begin{pmatrix}a\\b\end{pmatrix}=1
$$
and
$$
\dim_\mathbb{C} \left\{\mathbb{C}\cdot a + \mathbb{C}\cdot \mathrm{i}b\right\}=1\, , \,\dim_\mathbb{C} \mathbb{C}\cdot (a+\mathrm{i}b) =1
$$
I assume the exercise was to understand this difference. The field is essential here.
 
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The dimension is ##n+1##.
 
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