What is the acceleration of each mass in a pulley system with two masses?

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The discussion revolves around a pulley system involving two masses, m1 and m2, where participants are attempting to determine the acceleration of each mass using parameters such as gravitational acceleration (g) and the masses themselves. The setup assumes massless and frictionless pulleys and ropes.

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  • Participants explore the relationships between the accelerations of the two masses, with one noting that |a1|=2|a2|. They present equations relating forces and accelerations but express uncertainty about their correctness. Others suggest combining equations and caution about sign conventions.

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devanlevin
2 masses are tied in the followin configuaration, the 1st with a mass of m1 the 2nd mass of m2, pulleys and ropes have no mass or friction.

what is the acceleration of each mass, using only parameters g, m1, and m2

http://picasaweb.google.com/devanlevin/DropBox?authkey=sbH95pBl_D8#5273036312921418818

not too much i can see from this, i know that |a1|=2|a2|,
i think that
1 F=m1a=m1g-T
a1=g-T/m1

2 F=m2a=m2g-2T
a2=g-2t/m2

not sure about those though,
 
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looks right to me.
 
So far, so good. But now you need to combine all three equations to solve for a1 & a2 in terms of the given parameters. Hint: Careful with signs. If a1 is down, a2 must be up.
 
a1=-2*a2,

a1=g-T/m1

a2=g-2t/m2
-------------------
T=m1(g-a1)=m1(g+2a2)

a2=g-[2m1(g+2a2)]/m2
m2a2=g-(2m1g)-(4m1a2)

a2(m2+4*m1)=g(1-2*m1)

a2=g*(1-2m1)/(m2+4m1)

is that correct,?? the answer in my textbook is similar, either a mistake on their behalf or I am missing something,, their answer is

a2=g*(m2-2m1)/(m2+4m1)
 
devanlevin said:
a2=g-[2m1(g+2a2)]/m2
m2a2=g-(2m1g)-(4m1a2)
You made an error in this step. Note how the terms in your last equation all have the same units--except one. (When you multiplied by m2, you did not do it completely.)
 
thanks
 

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