What Is the Correct Approach to Solve This Specific Heat Calculation Error?

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The discussion revolves around a specific heat calculation error involving two water samples at different temperatures. The user initially applied the formula incorrectly, leading to an erroneous final temperature calculation. After consulting a classmate, they discovered that the equation should reflect the heat lost by the hot water equaling the heat gained by the cold water, specifically correcting the temperature difference to (90-x) instead of (x-90). The importance of correctly setting up the equation based on conservation of energy principles was emphasized. Ultimately, the user was guided towards the correct approach to solve the problem.
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Please Help! - Specific Heat Problem...

I have been stuck for a while, it's online (Webassign), so it told me my answer was wrong.
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A 6.3x10^2 g sample of water at 90.0°C is mixed with 4.45x10^2 g of water at 22.0°C. Assume no heat loss to the surroundings. What is the final temperature of the mixture?
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The formula I know is right:

(cp)(m)(Tf- Ti) = (cp)(m)(Tf- Ti)

cp= spec. heat
m = mass
Tf = final Temp
Ti = initial Temp
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work:

converted grams into kilograms...

cp water, given
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(4186) (.630) (x-90) = (4186) (.445) (x-22)

774.41x = 196365.26

x = <<<it says it's wrong>>>

Where did I slip up?

Thanks.
 
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porschedriver192 said:
The formula I know is right:

(cp)(m)(Tf- Ti) = (cp)(m)(Tf- Ti)
I think you mean:
(cp)(m1)(Tf- Ti) + (cp)(m2)(Tf- Ti) = 0
 
My textbook gave me the original formula...but would the one you gave yield a correct answer? Thanks.
 
porschedriver192 said:
My textbook gave me the original formula...
Are you sure you copied it exactly? The formula you gave makes no sense. Note that the final temperature will be somewhere between 22°C and 90°C. Thus one side of your equation would be negative, the other positive. Nothing good can come of that. :smile:
 
Doc Al,

I called a classmate, and he had used the same formula I did...and got the correct answer. After walking through my steps with him, I found that messed up here:

cp water, given
||
(4186) (.630) (x-90) = (4186) (.445) (x-22)

774.41x = 196365.26
It should have been 90-x
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About the equation...my book is right. It is on specific heat capactity, and states how the energy absorbed by one object must be released by the other, similar to conservation of momentum.

Thanks for the help, and I was eventually led in the right direction!
 
porschedriver192 said:
I called a classmate, and he had used the same formula I did...and got the correct answer.
Well... that formula is still wrong for the reasons I gave. (I'm guessing that you copied it incorrectly.)
After walking through my steps with him, I found that messed up here:

cp water, given
||
(4186) (.630) (x-90) = (4186) (.445) (x-22)

774.41x = 196365.26
It should have been 90-x
Right! I hope you realize that since you had to reverse things in your formula, that your formula cannot be correct.
 
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