What is the Ideal Gas Law in Space?

AI Thread Summary
The discussion focuses on calculating the pressure of a tenuous gas in a nebula using the Ideal Gas Law, with specific attention to unit conversions and the correct gas constant. The initial calculations yielded incorrect results due to the use of inappropriate gas constants and unit conversions. Participants clarified that Boltzmann's Constant can be used instead of the universal gas constant when dealing with atomic or molecular scales. Ultimately, the correct approach involves using R = 0.0821 L*atm*K^-1*mol^-1 to arrive at a pressure of approximately 1.02*10^-16 atm. The conversation highlights the importance of unit analysis in solving gas law problems.
kikko
Messages
47
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement



A nebula-a region of the galaxy where new stars are forming-contains a very tenuous gas with 100 atoms/cm^3. This gas is heated to 7500 K by ultraviolet radiation from nearby stars. Put the answer in atmospheres.

Homework Equations



pV=nRT
R=8.31
n=N/NA
NA = 6.02*10^23
N/V = number density


The Attempt at a Solution



100 = N/V
100V=N
100V=nNA
100V/NA = n
p=nRT/V
P= 100V/NART
P=(((100(1*10^-6))/(6.02*10^23))(8.31)(7500))/(1*10^-6)

P=1*10^-17 Pascals = 1*10^-22 atm


Not where where I went wrong.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Why are you dividing by 1*10^-6?

N/v = 100 atoms/cm^3 = 0.0001 atoms/m^3
n/v = (.0001 atoms/m^3)*(1/(6.022*10^23 atoms/mol))=1.66*10^-28 mol/m^3
p=(n/v)rt=(1.66*10^-28 mol/m^3)(8.314 J/mol*K)(7500 K)=1.04*10^-23 Pa = 1.03*10^-28 atm.
 
Actually 1.03*10^-28 atm was the first answer I used in mastering physics and got it wrong.

I was going along the lines pV=nRT so p=(nRT)/V = ((100V/NA)RT)/V, and V=1*10^-6 m^3
 
Oops. We're both using the wrong gas constant. The units don't work out.
 
Isn't there just Boltzmann's Constant which equals the gas constant R divided by Avogrado's number, which we divided the gas constant by avogrado's number in the problem when multiply n and R.
 
I'm losing it. :cry:

The answer wants atmospheres so just use a gas constant with atmospheres. R=0.0821 L*atm*K^-1*mol^-1.

n=1.66*10^-22 mol/cm^3 = 1.66*10^-19 mol/L.
p=(1.66*10^-19 mol/L)(0.0821 L*atm*K^-1*mol^-1)(7500 K)

Moles cancel, liters cancel, Kelvin cancel, and you get atmospheres.

p = 1.02*10^-16 atm.

I hate these types of problems. More on getting caught up in unit analysis than actually solving a problem.
 
Last edited:
That works out pretty straightforward with the R=0.0821 L*atm*K^-1*mol^-1. Thanks a ton. I'm wondering how we get that number for R. Is it just a given, like 8.31 we're supposed to just know when we do problems? My physics text doesn't mention any other values for R, and I can't remember the professor mentioning it either.
 
Back
Top