What is the integral of sin(x^2) dx?

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The discussion revolves around the integral of sin(x^2) dx, which is noted to not have an elementary antiderivative. Participants explore a related double integral involving y * sin(x^2) and discuss various approaches to evaluate it.

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  • Some participants clarify that sin(x^2) does not have an elementary integral, while others discuss the implications of reversing the order of integration in a double integral context. There are attempts to evaluate the integral using substitutions and series expansions.

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The discussion is ongoing with multiple interpretations being explored. Some participants have suggested reversing the order of integration and using substitutions, while others are questioning the validity of certain steps and assumptions made in the process.

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There is a mention of confusion regarding the nature of the integral, with some participants mistakenly conflating sin(x^2) with sin^2(x). Additionally, there are concerns about the accuracy of calculations related to the integral's evaluation.

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what is the integral of sin(x^2) dx?

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It's one of those integrals like e^(-x^2) that doesn't have an elementary antiderivative. Why are you asking?
 
That does not have an integral in terms of elementary functions.
 
as I am asked to calculate integral from y^2 to 25 of y * sin(x^2) dx and I am stuck with the sin(x^2), the y can be treated as a constant. Can you give some help?

tried to use some online help here and the result was just bizarre:
http://www.numberempire.com/integralcalculator.php
 
Is that REALLY the whole problem? Or is there more you aren't telling us about?
 
this is the whole problem:

integral from 0 to 5, integral from y^2 to 25 of y * sin(x^2) dx dy

It's a double integral
 
So, since you cannot integrate sin(x2) in elementary functions, reverse the order of integration, as I suggested.
 
ok so after reversing it I have integral from 0 to 25 , integral from 0 to sqrt(x) of y sin(x^2) dy dx. Doing the first integration results in integral from 0 to 25 of (sin(x^2)*x)/2 and I got -cos(x^2)/4 evaluated from 0 to 25. Is this correct so far?
 
-EquinoX- said:

Homework Statement



what is the integral of sin(x^2) dx?

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The Attempt at a Solution


how i can evaluate it
gi me now
 
  • #10
please give me a solution no to me
many thanks to you.
 
  • #11
Why have you suddenly jumped into this thread from back in February? Did you not read the previous posts? As said in the very first response, sin(x^2) does NOT have an elementary anti-derivative.

After EquinoX told us that the problem was really
\int_{y= 0}^5\int_{x= y^2}^{25} y sin(x^2)dx dy
it was suggested that he reverse the order of integration. Doing that it becomes
\int_{x= 0}^{25}}\int_{y= 0}^{\sqrt{x}} y sin(x^2)dy dx
= \frac{1}{2}\int_{x= 0}^{25}\left[y^2\right]_{y=0}^{\sqrt{x}} sin(x^2) dx
= \frac{1}{2}\int_{x= 0}^{25} x sin(x^2) dx
which can be integrated by using the substitution u= x^2:
If u= x^2, du= 2x dx so x dx= (1/2)du. When x= 0, u= 0 and when x= 25, u= 625 so the integral is
\frac{1}{4}\int_0^{625} sin(u) du= -\frac{1}{4}\left[cos(u)\right]_0^{625}
= -\frac{1}{4}(-0.984387)= 0.246097
 
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  • #12
According to Maple, it is a Fresnel S integral...
\int \sin(x^2)\,dx =<br /> \frac{\sqrt {2}\sqrt {\pi }}{2}\,{\rm S} \left( {\frac {\sqrt {2}x}{<br /> \sqrt {\pi }}} \right) <br />
 
  • #13
sin x^2 = 1 - cos 2x
and we can use 1 and cos 2x seperatly and solve this problem.
 
  • #14
anushyan88 said:
sin x^2 = 1 - cos 2x
and we can use 1 and cos 2x seperatly and solve this problem.
No, "sin x^2" MEANS sin(x^2) and cannot be integrated in that way. If your function is really (sin(x))^2= sin^2(x), you should have told us that immediately.
 
  • #15
if we do a maclaurin series expansion on sin(x^2) can't we use that to find the integral of sin(x^2)dx?
 
  • #16
Of course; the solution to integrals almost always exists, even if you cannot express it in terms of elementary functions. This means that the solution series won't have a nicely identifiable set of coefficients -- you'll need to leave it in the series form.
 
  • #17
INTsin x^2dx
=INT(1-cos2x)/2.dx
=1/2INTdx-INTcos2xdx
=x/2-sin2x/2
 
  • #18
So you resurrected this thread from over a year ago just to say you did not understand it?

The original question was to integrate sin(x^2), NOT sin^2(x) for which your solution would be appropriate.

That was said back in November of 2009.
 
  • #19
I think I have a solution. I hope it was not so late :).

tan(x^2)=m

dx=cos(x^2)dm integral [sin(x^2)] = integral [mdm/(m^2+1)]

m^2+1=a and 2mdm=da ...

integral [sin(x^2)] = 0.5*ln[(tan(x^2))^2+1]+c
 
  • #20
Mstf_akkoc said:
dx=cos(x^2)dm

Why is this true?
 
  • #21
micromass said:
Why is this true?

Well, if dx = cos(x^2) dm, then sec(x^2) = dm/dx and m=... I got lost.
 
  • #22
Actualy is not true. I have done a misteke when calculete the [tan(x^2)]'

2xdx=cos^2(x^2)dm is true

if I find a solution with this I ll write.
 
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Mstf_akkoc said:
Actualy is not true. I have done a misteke when calculete the [tan(x^2)]'

2xdx=cos(x^2)dm is true

if I find a solution with this I ll write.

No no no.

If tan(x^2) = m, then 2x sec^2(x^2) dx = dm and 2x dx = cos^2(x^2) dm

Can you see why?
 
  • #24
HallsofIvy said:
Why have you suddenly jumped into this thread from back in February? Did you not read the previous posts? As said in the very first response, sin(x^2) does NOT have an elementary anti-derivative.

After EquinoX told us that the problem was really
\int_{y= 0}^5\int_{x= y^2}^{25} y sin(x^2)dx dy
it was suggested that he reverse the order of integration. Doing that it becomes
\int_{x= 0}^{25}\int_{y= 0}^{\sqrt{x}} y sin(x^2)dy dx
= \frac{1}{2}\int_{x= 0}^{25}\left[y^2\right]_{y=0}^{\sqrt{x}} sin(x^2) dx
= \frac{1}{2}\int_{x= 0}^{25} x sin(x^2) dx
which can be integrated by using the substitution u= x^2:
If u= x^2, du= 2x dx so x dx= (1/2)du. When x= 0, u= 0 and when x= 25, u= 625 so the integral is
\frac{1}{4}\int_0^{625} sin(u) du= -\frac{1}{4}\left[cos(u)\right]_0^{625}
= -\frac{1}{4}(-0.984387)= 0.246097

I have a problem. Isn't:
\left[cos(u)\right]_0^{625} = cos(625)-cos(0) = (-0.984387)-(1)=-1.984387

Therefore;
\frac{1}{4}\int_0^{625} sin(u) du = -\frac{1}{4}(-1.984387)= 0.496097
 

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