What is the Output Force of a Wheel Axle?

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To determine the output force of a wheel axle, the discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding mechanical advantage and torque, even if torque hasn't been formally covered. The problem involves applying a force of 17 N to a wheel with a radius of 0.75 m and an axle radius of 6 cm. Participants suggest visualizing the setup as a lever, where the input and output forces depend on the scenario. The conversation highlights the need to apply concepts like angular momentum and mechanical advantage to solve the problem effectively. Overall, grasping these fundamental principles is crucial for calculating the output force accurately.
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Homework Statement


You apply a force of 17 N to a wheel with a radius of 0.75 m. If the axle has a radius of 6 cm, what is the output force, assuming the machine operates under ideal conditions?

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I don't even know how to begin to begin this. Help!
 
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Google "simple machines output force".
 
Begin with thinking about all the equations you were given in class.
 
NatalieWise123 said:
I don't even know how to begin to begin this. Help!
What do you know about angular momentum?
 
TeethWhitener said:
What do you know about angular momentum?

Angular Momentum= mass*velocity*radius
 
Isaac0427 said:
Begin with thinking about all the equations you were given in class.

I'm thinking it has something to do with Idea Mechanical Advantage which is output/input I believe.
 
How about torque? (I probably should have said torque in my first post)
 
TeethWhitener said:
How about torque? (I probably should have said torque in my first post)

We haven't learned that yet
 
Hmm. Ok. It is about mechanical advantage. It's just a little easier to understand if you know about torque. No big deal. But gimme a sec to think about how to explain the problem without torque.
 
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Have you gone over concepts such as angular velocity yet?
 
  • #11
You can think of the setup like a lever, with each arm being a radius and the fulcrum being the shared center of rotation (axis). Surely you've covered simple machines like levers?

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TeethWhitener said:
Have you gone over concepts such as angular velocity yet?

In a really general sense. I understand it though.
 
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gneill said:
You can think of the setup like a lever, with each arm being a radius and the fulcrum being the shared center of rotation (axis). Surely you've covered simple machines like levers?

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Sort of. Would output force be F2?
 
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NatalieWise123 said:
Sort of. Would output force be F2?
Sure. For a lever, which end is "input" and which is "output" is your choice based on the situation at hand. Base your choice on the scenario presented in the problem statement.
 
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gneill's picture is probably much better help than anything I could put into words.
 
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