What is the reason for harmonics in dc-dc converter?

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The discussion revolves around the reasons for harmonics in the output voltage of DC-DC converters, particularly focusing on the role of nonlinear switches and the nature of waveforms produced during operation. Participants explore theoretical and practical aspects of the topic, including the implications of switch mode operation and the characteristics of square waves.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the nonlinear switch in DC-DC converters is a reason for harmonics in the output voltage.
  • Others argue that the switch's operation inherently produces square waves, which are characterized by their harmonic content.
  • A participant mentions that the inductor maintains current supply even when the switch is off, contributing to the waveform characteristics.
  • Some participants note that square waves are composed of many harmonics, which can be analyzed in the frequency domain.
  • There is a discussion about the nature of nonlinear devices, with some asserting that the switch itself may not be nonlinear, while others maintain that semiconductor switches like diodes and MOSFETs exhibit nonlinear characteristics.
  • One participant highlights that the ON-OFF action of switches can create various pulse waveforms, not limited to square waves.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether the nonlinear characteristics of switches are the primary reason for harmonics in DC-DC converters. There is no consensus on this issue, as some assert that the switch's operation produces square waves while others challenge the characterization of the switch as nonlinear.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference concepts from signals and systems courses, indicating a background in analyzing waveforms and harmonics. The discussion includes varying interpretations of nonlinearity and its implications for the behavior of DC-DC converters.

  • #31
jim hardy said:
I think one movie did , probably a Spielberg. He'd pay that kind of attention to detail. Perhaps "1942" ?

For those interested in hearing this tell-tale hum check out 5 minutes and 17 seconds into this video.

 
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  • #34
jim hardy said:
On those radios you have to pay attention to positive or negative ground.

Great video by the way.
Yes you do have to watch the polarity. But I can't take credit for the vid.
 
  • #35
Averagesupernova said:
But I can't take credit for the vid.
Well you found it and were kind enough to share it.

EDIT OOPS MY MISTAKE that was @Asymptotic 's video ! Is my face red !

mistaken post now edited for correct attribution... - jh
 
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  • #36
That car radio video says to use a Dremel to open the Vibrator can. That's not needed. The can is crimped around the bottom phenolic wafer tht holds the pins. A pair of 6-inch diagonal cutters can be used to sttraighten out the crimp, allownig the can to be pulled off. After the repairs are made, replace and recrimp the can. Of course for testing in the radio, you don't want the vibrator flopping around, so pull out the cup of foam rubber that is lining the can and slip it over the vibrator.
 
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  • #37
It is possible to make a sinusoidal inverter to a suitable AC voltage with as low harmonics as you could want and then pass the sine wave to a rectifier / smoother. Problem is that the inverter either going to get HOT (inefficient), if you use a Class A amplifying device or it will be needlessly complicated, if you used a switch mode device. Either way would be poor Engineering when, in any case, you are going to rectify that power signal and be producing harmonics in any case.
I guess the reason that DC DC converter waveforms have 'measurable' harmonics is that it doesn't matter. Good Engineering doesn't spend resources on higher specs than needed.
 
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