What is the relationship between torque and frictional force in this system?

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The discussion centers on the relationship between torque and frictional force in different systems involving objects A, B, and C. It is established that the frictional force in system B is greater than in system A, while both B and C have the same net force. The direction of the friction force on object C must point up the ramp to facilitate proper rotation while rolling down the plane. It is clarified that the frictional force on C is kinetic, as it rolls without slipping. Understanding these relationships is crucial for solving the problem accurately.
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Homework Statement


In the picture

Homework Equations


Torque = I * Alpha
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Alpha = a / r
Fnet = m*a

The Attempt at a Solution


I provided my work in the pictures. I figured out that the frictional force in system B is greater than in system A. I am not sure how to compare this with the frictional force from system C. I figured out the sum if the frictional forces of A and B are equal to mg sin theta, but don't know how the two compare.
 
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Answers to (a) and (b) look good to me. According to (b), objects B and C have the same net force. Look at your free body diagrams for objects B and C. If you add the forces in the diagram for B do you get the same net force as the diagram for C?

What should be the direction of the friction force on C to make it rotate in the right direction for rolling down the plane?
 
TSny said:
Answers to (a) and (b) look good to me. According to (b), objects B and C have the same net force. Look at your free body diagrams for objects B and C. If you add the forces in the diagram for B do you get the same net force as the diagram for C?

What should be the direction of the friction force on C to make it rotate in the right direction for rolling down the plane?
So Friction force on C is pointing up the ramp and its magnitude is equal to friction force on B? The frictional force on C is kinetic not static correct?
 
Joe Armas said:
So Friction force on C is pointing up the ramp and its magnitude is equal to friction force on B?

Yes, that's the only way Fnet,B can equal Fnet,C.

The frictional force on C is kinetic not static correct?

To answer this, remember that the statement of the problem says that C rolls without slipping.
 
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