What is the total resistance of this circuit?

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The discussion revolves around calculating total resistance in a circuit with multiple resistors, each valued at 1 Ohm. Participants are attempting to solve for total resistance between points A-B, A-D, and B-C, with initial misconceptions leading to incorrect values. The use of Kirchhoff's laws is emphasized for solving the circuit, though some users express confusion over the complexity of the equations and the number of unknowns. A user shares their method for calculating resistance, but others suggest that notation and approach may be causing misunderstandings. The conversation highlights the challenges of circuit analysis and the importance of clear methodology in solving electrical problems.
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Homework Statement



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9.15
a) Each box has the restistance 1 Ohm. Find the total resistance between 1) A-B 2) A-D 3) B-C
b) Find I (electric current(?)) from A-D if you put a battery from B-C
c) Find I on the Ammeter and the direction (the lower picture)

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a) Use Kircchofs 2nd law on ABED to show that I3 ) 0,5A
b) Explain how I2 + I5 = 2A. Use Kirchhoffs 2nd law on BEFC to find another equation for uknown I2+I5
c) Find I1 and I4
d) Find the resistance R.

Homework Equations



Kirchoff's circuit law is relevant

The Attempt at a Solution


9.15
a) 1) Thought it would be just 1 ohm but it's supposed to be 0,63 2) I used 1/Rtotal = 1/R + 1/R + R which means 2+1 = 3 which is wrong while it's supposed to be 0,5.
This makes the rest pretty complicated to solve.
9.126

I used Kirchoffs law and found following formulas but not sure if it's supposed to be solved as
5 unknowns while we've only been into 3.
 
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Hi MJay! Welcome to PF! :smile:
MJay said:
9.15
a) 1) Thought it would be just 1 ohm but it's supposed to be 0,63

You need to use all the paths from A to B :wink:
2) I used 1/Rtotal = 1/R + 1/R + R which means 2+1 = 3 which is wrong while it's supposed to be 0,5.

erm :redface:

calculate it again! :smile:
 
Hey thanks :)

I tried a different method now:

1/R = 1/(AC+CD) + 1/AD
which gives 2/3 then I insert it in 1/R= 1/(2/3) + 1/(AB+BD) Am I on the right way?
 
Hi MJay! :wink:
MJay said:
1/R = 1/(AC+CD) + 1/AD
which gives 2/3

(this is part 2)

Correct :smile:

(But your notation is terrible, and I suspect is misleading you …

you can't just call everything R, and expect not to make mistakes :redface:)
then I insert it in 1/R= 1/(2/3) + 1/(AB+BD) Am I on the right way?

nooo

think again :smile:
 
Yeah understand but it get's so messy while I'm doing this in the way we learned it in school which might get confusing also, I'm not sure what way I should put it. But I have no clue or book to help me out, as this is the toughest exercise (marked with 2**).
 
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