# What is the volume of gas at state C?

• timetraveller123
In summary, the gas is brought from state A to state C by processes that involve the temperature dropping by 100 K and the volume being compressed.
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## Homework Statement

2.00 moles of gas is held in a cylinder with a piston and is initially held at 0.300atm and has an initial volume of 0.200 m^3. The molar heat capacity of the gas at constant volume is 24.94 J mol^−1 K^−1
. The gas is then brought from this initial state (State A) through the following processes:
From state A to B:
Gas is allowed to expand isothermally.
From state B to C:
The temperature of the gas drops by 100 K while it is being held at constant volume.
From state C to A:
The volume of the gas is then compressed in an adiabatic process back to its initial state.
(a) What is the initial temperature of the gas in state A?
(b) What is the ratio of the molar heat capacity at constant pressure (C P to the molar heat capacity at constant volume (C V ) of the gas?
(c) What is the volume of the gas at state C? Hence, sketch a P −V
curve depicting the processes, indicating the pressure and volume at each point.
(d) In which of the processes is heat being transferred to the system and in which process is the heat being expelled from the system? Hence, calculate the network done by the system.
(e) Assume that process B to C is instead stated as “The temperature of the gas rises by 100 K while it is being held at constant volume.” Is it possible then to return the gas to its initial state via an adiabatic process? Why or why not

## Homework Equations

q = n cv ΔT
Δu = Q - w
p v^ϒ = constant for adiabatic process
pv = nrt
cp = r + cv

## The Attempt at a Solution

i solved part a and b but got stuck at c i have shown my answer for a and b

a)T = pv/nr = 364K
b)cp /cv = 1+ r/cv = 1.33
c)so for c how am i supposed to know the volume at c without knowing the pressure at c please help thanks!

Can you find the volume at b? It is the same as at c.

On edit: How are ΔUbc and ΔUca related? Can you find an equivalent expression of pVγ = const. that involves temperature instead of pressure?

Last edited:
well,
Δubc = q
where q = n cv Δt
Δt = -100k
and
Δuca = -w
and
adiabatic process can also be written as t Vγ-1
i had realized this but how does this help

vishnu 73 said:
adiabatic process can also be written as t Vγ-1
i had realized this but how does this help
TcVcγ-1=TaVaγ-1
How many unknowns in the above equation?

The trick in this problem is to focus on the change from state C to state A. Presumably, they meant for the process to be reversible. So, instead of trying to guess the pressure and volume in state C, run this process step in reverse. You know the conditions in state A, and you know the final temperature in state C. So start at state A, and allow the gas to expand adiabatically and reversibly until the temperature is 100 C lower. This will get you to the conditions at state C.

oh my god i can't believe the equation TVγ-1 was staring at me all along and i could not figure it our my careless mistake sorry for wasting all of your time i got so involved that i forgot i know V1 thanks anyways!

## What is the first law of thermodynamics?

The first law of thermodynamics, also known as the law of conservation of energy, states that energy cannot be created or destroyed, but can only be transferred or converted from one form to another.

## What is the second law of thermodynamics?

The second law of thermodynamics states that the total entropy, or disorder, of an isolated system will always increase over time.

## What is a thermodynamic cycle?

A thermodynamic cycle is a sequence of thermodynamic processes that return a system to its initial state. It is often represented on a pressure-volume or temperature-entropy diagram.

## What is an example of a thermodynamic cycle?

An example of a thermodynamic cycle is the Carnot cycle, which consists of four reversible processes: isothermal expansion, adiabatic expansion, isothermal compression, and adiabatic compression.

## How is the efficiency of a thermodynamic cycle determined?

The efficiency of a thermodynamic cycle is determined by the ratio of the work output to the heat input. It is also related to the temperatures at which the heat is added and removed from the system.

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