Why Does Flow Rate Remain Constant When Reducing Orifice Size in a Water Tank?

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The discussion centers on the behavior of water flow through an orifice in a tank when the orifice size is reduced. It highlights that, contrary to intuition, the velocity of water does not increase when the diameter of the orifice is decreased, due to the conservation of volume flow rate and the consistent pressure difference driving the flow. Participants clarify that while flow through a single connected pipe conserves flow rate, different setups can behave differently, as they involve separate systems. The pressure upstream of the orifice remains unchanged, which affects the flow dynamics. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding fluid dynamics principles in explaining these phenomena.
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So we all know that due to the conservation of volume flow rate, reducing the diameter of a hose pipe would increase the velocity of the water flow.(A*V is conserved)
But when the are of an orifice near the bottom of a water tank is reduced the velocity remains the same! Does anyone know why this actually happens?
 
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In the first part you consider two connected pipes in a single setup, in the second part you compare two completely different setups. There is no reason why those should behave the same.
 
mfb said:
In the first part you consider two connected pipes in a single setup, in the second part you compare two completely different setups. There is no reason why those should behave the same.
Yes but intuitively when area at a point in the tank is reduced then velocity of the water should increase right?(The water is forced to go through a smaller hole)
 
TheNerdyGuy said:
Yes but intuitively when area at a point in the tank is reduced then velocity of the water should increase right?
No.
TheNerdyGuy said:
(The water is forced to go through a smaller hole)
It is forced by the same pressure difference, so it gets the same speed.

What happens without a hole?
 
In the second case the pressure is not changed by reducing the area of the hole. This is the difference.
Your intuition is based on these situations where reduction of area results in increased pressure. Like squeezing a garden hose.
 
TheNerdyGuy said:
Yes but intuitively when area at a point in the tank is reduced then velocity of the water should increase right?(The water is forced to go through a smaller hole)
Far upstream of the hole, the cross sectional area is that of the entire tank, and the velocity is very low. At the oriface, the diameter is much smaller than the tank diameter, and the velocity is much higher. In the region approaching the hole, the streamline pattern is converging, and the effective area for flow is getting smaller as the velocity increases.

Chet
 
Flow through a single pipe is conserved, since it's the same water flowing through two parts of the pipe.
Flow through two different tanks doesn't have to be equal between the tanks, since it's not the same water flowing through tank 1 and 2. Obviously, a bigger hole in the bottom of the tank will leak more.
 
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