# Work done by an electric FIELD = Work done by electric FORCE ?

1. Sep 29, 2012

### I_am_a_person

"Work done by an electric FIELD" = "Work done by electric FORCE"??

1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
Problem 1
If the electric field does negative work on a negative charge as the charge undergoes a displacement from position A to position B within an electric field, then the electrical potential energy:
A) is negative
B) is positive
C) increases
D) decreases
E) Cannot be determined

2. Relevant equations

Attempt at Solution
I assumed that "electric field does negative work" meant that the particle is moving opposite to electric field lines (if this assumption is false, and "electric field does negative work" should be interpreted as "electric FORCE does negative work", then I do not need further clarification). If so, since negative charges naturally move opposite to electric fields lines, then wouldn't potential energy decrease (D)? (The correct answer is "C": "increase")

1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
Problem 2
Negative charges are accelerated by electric fields toward points
A) At lower electric potential
B) At higher electric potential
C) where the electric field is zero
D) where the electric field is weaker
E) where the electric field is stronger

2. Relevant equations
ΔV = ΔU/q

Attempt at Solution
Again, I assumed that the direction of acceleration by an electric FIELD is the same direction as an electric FIELD LINE (again, if this assumption is wrong and "acceleration by an electric field" should be interpreted as "acceleration by an electric FORCE", then no further clarification is needed). If so, then if a negative charge moves in the direction of the field line, its potential energy increases (ΔU>0). Since ΔV = ΔU/q, and since ΔU>0, q<0, shouldn't ΔV be negative (A)? (The correct answer is "B": ΔV is positive)

General question: If a problem states, "an electric field does negative work on a negative charge", does the term "negative work" mean that the electric FORCE is opposite to the direction of motion or that the particle's motion is opposite the electric FIELD lines? Similarly, if a negative charge is being "accelerated electric field toward a point", is it being accelerated in the direction of the electric FIELD lines or the electric FORCE? (NOTE: The questions above were taken from a Princeton Review Subject SAT book)

Thanks in advance. And since I'm a newbie to physicsforums, I accidentally posted this outside of this HW help section, so if anyone knows how to delete posts, please enlighten me.

2. Sep 30, 2012

### ehild

Re: "Work done by an electric FIELD" = "Work done by electric FORCE"??

Hi, person , welcome to the Forums.

You are right the electric force does work, but we say "work of the electric field".
If the field do negative work on a negative charge it means that the electric force is opposite to the displacement of the particle. The electric force F=qE is opposite to the electric field in case of negative charge. The opposite displacement has the same direction as the field, so the potential decreases, but the potential energy of the negative particle increases.

In general, the work done by a constant conservative force F when an object moves from A to B (displacement ΔrAB) is equal to the negative potential energy difference between points A and B: WAB=FΔrAB =U(A)-U(B)

ehild

3. Sep 30, 2012

### I_am_a_person

Re: "Work done by an electric FIELD" = "Work done by electric FORCE"??

Thanks, ehild, that really cleared things up!

4. Sep 30, 2012

### ehild

Re: "Work done by an electric FIELD" = "Work done by electric FORCE"??

You are welcome

ehild

5. Sep 30, 2012

### hms.tech

Re: "Work done by an electric FIELD" = "Work done by electric FORCE"??

This is the definition of the work done by an electric field (irrespective of -ve charges or +ve charges)

$W_{field}$=$\frac{-kQq}{x}$

And the work done by an electric field is always equal to :

$W_{field}$= -Δ$P$

Combining these two equations with the fact that the convention defining electric field vector,$E$, shows you the direction of the Force acting on a unit +ve test charge will surely help u solve the problem .

6. Sep 30, 2012

### ehild

Re: "Work done by an electric FIELD" = "Work done by electric FORCE"??

It is wrong anyway. But what is x?

The work of the electric field on a charged body depends on the charge. What do you denote by P?

ehild