Work Done by Spring on a Body Sliding down a rod

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The discussion focuses on calculating the work done by a spring on an object sliding down a rod, specifically addressing the formula for work done by spring force, WSpring = -1/2 * K(X2^2 - X1^2). The participants clarify that the changing angle of the spring with respect to the rod does not invalidate the use of the standard formula for work done by spring force. They suggest alternative approaches, including integration of the spring force along the rod and using the conservation of energy principle to find the potential energy changes.

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1. The Question
Unable to find the work done by spring on the object sliding down the rod as shown below:

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Homework Equations


Work Done by Spring Force : -1/2 * KΔx2 --(1)
where k = Spring Constant
Δx = Change in Spring Length[/B]

3. Where the problem occurred
While seeing the solution of the problem, it was mentioned that we can simply take
WSpring = -1/2 * K(X22-X12) --(2)
But my problem is that if the position of ring on rod is changing, the angle of spring with the rod is changing and thus the force components on rod is changing, then how the usual formula
Work Done by Spring Force : -1/2 * KΔx2
is also valid for the given condition.
PS: I also tried to understand this using concept of conservative force, but couldn't get it.
Thanks!
 
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Your formula for work done by a spring is wrong. Its X2. Not x.
 
UncertaintyAjay said:
Your formula for work done by a spring is wrong. Its X2. Not x.
Sorry for this.
Corrected the Formulas
Thanks!
 
Okay so , ignore the fact that you've seen the solution for a moment. Assume you don't know what the answer is. How would you approach the sum?
 
UncertaintyAjay said:
Okay so , ignore the fact that you've seen the solution for a moment. Assume you don't know what the answer is. How would you approach the sum?

1. Integration =>∫(force of spring along rod)*dx or ∫(force of spring along rod as function of angle)*dθ
2. As Work Done = - Change in Potential Energy
Find Potential Energy due spring for both the positions and use the above relation

Are these meathods right.
Wont consider using integration method
Can we use other concepts like conservative forces or just like that?
 
The second method is easier. When in doubt use conservation of energy. Now try it with that and see what answer you get.
 

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