Ramp angle and landing velocity

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A daredevil plans to jump a canyon with a 15 m drop and a distance of 66.3 m, aiming for a 3.0-second flight time. The calculated launch speed is 24.1 m/s at an angle of 23.7 degrees. There is confusion regarding the landing velocity, with attempts yielding incorrect results. The horizontal component of velocity is confirmed to be 22.1 m/s, and the ramp angle was determined to be 41.7 degrees, with the landing velocity calculated at 29.6 m/s. The discussion highlights the importance of accurately combining vertical and horizontal components in projectile motion calculations.
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1. A Hollywood daredevil plans to jump the canyon shown in the figure on a motorcycle. There is a 15. m drop and the horizontal distance originally planned was 60. m but it turns out the canyon is really 66.3 m across. If he desires a 3.0-second flight time, what is the correct angle for his landing ramp (deg, positive angle below horizontal) AND landing velocity?



2. magnitude= sqrt(Vf^2 + Vi^2), etc



3. I've calculated the launch speed to be 24.1 m/s and the launch angle to be 23.7 deg. I've tried using the formula 2. to solve for the landing velocity by figuring Vf 15sin(23.7)-(9.81)(3)= -23.4. plugging into the formula, sqrt(-23^2 + 24.1^2)= 33.6 and this is incorrect. I've exhausted myself trying to figure these last 2 parts, and I'm now stumped! Thanks in advance. I also added a visual that may help.
 

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clockworks204 said:
3. I've calculated the launch speed to be 24.1 m/s and the launch angle to be 23.7 deg.

this is correct.

clockworks204 said:
I've tried using the formula 2. to solve for the landing velocity by figuring Vf 15sin(23.7)-(9.81)(3)= -23.4. plugging into the formula, sqrt(-23^2 + 24.1^2)= 33.6 and this is incorrect. I've exhausted myself trying to figure these last 2 parts, and I'm now stumped! Thanks in advance. I also added a visual that may help.

Recheck this as I do not -23.4. Also remember this will give you the vertical component, which must be added (vector wise) to the horizontal component of velocity which is not 24.1 m/s.
 
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I just rechecked the math and still came out with -23.4. Would the horizontal component be 22.1 from dividing 66.3/3 ? Also, how can the landing angle be calculated? Sorry...confused
 
clockworks204 said:
I just rechecked the math and still came out with -23.4.

24.1sin(23.7) - 9.81(3)

clockworks204 said:
Would the horizontal component be 22.1 from dividing 66.3/3 ? Also, how can the landing angle be calculated? Sorry...confused

yes the horizontal component would be 22.1 m/s.
 
Right, wrong number. I figured out the ramp angle by dividing -19.7 by 22.1 and took the reverse tan to get 41.7 degrees. I the got the velocity by using sqrt(19.7^2 + 22.1^2) to get 29.6 m/s.

Thanks for your help rock.freak667, I do appreciate it!
 
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