How Does Charge Density Affect Electric Field Calculations?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric field produced by a charged nonconducting plastic wire, first in a straight configuration and then when bent into a circle. For the straight wire, the electric field at a point above its midpoint is derived using the charge density and geometry, with calculations involving trigonometric functions to resolve components. When the wire is bent into a circle, a different approach is suggested, emphasizing the need to sum contributions from infinitesimal segments of the wire and consider varying angles for accurate results. The importance of visualizing the problem through diagrams is highlighted to aid understanding of the electric field's behavior. Overall, the conversation focuses on the correct application of physics principles to solve electric field problems related to charge density.
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Homework Statement



A straight, nonconducting plastic wire 8.00 cm long carries a charge density of 125 nC/m distributed uniformly along its length. It is lying on a horizontal tabletop.

A) Find the magnitude and direction of the electric field this wire produces at a point 5.50 cm directly above its midpoint.

B) If the wire is now bent into a circle lying flat on the table, find the magnitude and direction of the electric field it produces at a point 5.50 cm directly above its center.

I have tried to figure it out, but I am having some issues.

Homework Equations



theta = r/(L/s)

E = Q/2πrεoL = ρL/2πrL = ρ/2πεor

The Attempt at a Solution



E = 125*10^-9/((2pi(0.055)8.85*10^-12 = 4.0871*10^4

Ey = Esin(theta)

theta = r/(L/s) = arctan(2*0.055)/0.08 =arctan(1.375) = 53.97 degrees

Ey= 4.0871*10^4 * sin53.97 degrees = 3.31*10^4

Alternatively, would I do arctan again for 53.57 degrees for 88.938 degrees? Then multiply it by 4.0871*10^4? The answer would be 4.086*10^4

Is this right?? Please help me.

b)

r= L/2pi = 0.08/2pi = 0.0126 m

d = square root(0.0126^2+0.055^2) = 0.0564 m

Ey = Esin(theta)

theta = arctan(0.055)/(0.0126m) = 77.1 degrees

Ey = PL/4piEor^2 = 125*10^-9 * 0.08 / 4pi(8.85*10^-12(0.055^2) = 2.97*10^4
 
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It is usually easier to think about to put your rod in an explicit coordinate system - I'd suggest along the z axis of cylindrical-polar coordinates with the com of the rod at z=0.

So the rod goes from -4 to 4 cm, and you want the field at point P=(r,θ,z)=(5.5,0,0).

You need to sum the infinitesimal contributions across the length of the rod - like this:E=\int_{z=-4}^{z=4}d\vec{E}
Where dE is contribution to the field at P due to an arbitrary bit of the rod at position Z=(0,0,z), length dz. At that position, for example, Q(z)=ρdz where ρ is the linear charge density. The square distance will be |ZP|2 = (z2+5.52) ... from which you get the magnitude.

Since this will be a vector sum, you need to resolve into components - pick radial and z-axis components. You'll find the sum of the z-axis components will be zero.

I think where you are going wrong, if I read you right, is that you have fixed your theta when it will actually vary with z. Express the sine as a function of z and you'll get there. I've just used theta as a coordinate label so I have to change notation:

If \alpha is the angle between \vec{ZR} and \vec{OZ} [recall O=(0,0,0)] then \int dE\sin\alpha = 0 and \cos\alpha is determined from trigonometry.

Note: it will help you understand if you draw a picture.
 
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Alright, thank you very much for the detailed and well-written response. I have a much better idea on what is actually happening.
 
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