Counterexample Definition and 52 Threads
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I Construction of sigma-algebras: a counterexample
Consider a set ##X## and family of sets ##\mathcal E\subset\mathcal P(X)##. Let ##\mathcal E_1=\mathcal{E}\cup\{E^c:E\in\mathcal E\}## and then for ##j>1## define ##\mathcal E_j## to be the collection of all sets that are countable unions of sets in ##\mathcal E_{j-1}## or complements of such...- psie
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- Counterexample Measure theory Set theory
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Can anyone please verify/review this counterexample?
Disproof: Here is a counterexample: Suppose p+a^2=25, where 25 is a positive integer. Then we have 25=0+25 =9+16 =16+9...- Math100
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- Counterexample
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- Forum: Precalculus Mathematics Homework Help
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Finding a Counterexample to a Wrong Statement about Limits
I’m complete stuck on this problem. I am not sure how to start to find a counterexample to this statement.- vibha_ganji
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- Counterexample Limits
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- Forum: Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
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A Same open sets + same bounded sets => same Cauchy sequences?
Let ##d_1## and ##d_2## be two metrics on the same set ##X##. Suppose that a set is open with respect to ##d_1## if and only if it is open with respect to ##d_2##, and a set is bounded with respect to ##d_1## it and only if it is bounded with respect to ##d_2##. (In technical language, ##d_1##...- lugita15
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- Bounded Cauchy Cauchy sequences Counterexample Metric space Sequences Sets Topology
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- Forum: Topology and Analysis
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I Counterexample to the Poynting theorem
The counter-example is as follows: We have a rectangular toroid ferrite(ring ferrite), magnetized in a closed loop around the ring. We put capacitor plates on top and bottom surfaces, with suitable direction. Now the Poynting vector points inwards or outwards. We look at a cylindrical surface...- goran d
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- Counterexample Elecrtomagnetism Theorem
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- Forum: Other Physics Topics
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I Counterexample Required (Standard Notations)
I came up with the following qualification condition (for which I am asking for a counterexample). Some Background: A notation can be thought of as a mapping from an ordinal p∈ωCK to a subset of natural numbers. Generally there can be a few variations it seems: -- one can decide whether to use...- SSequence
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- Counterexample
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- Forum: Set Theory, Logic, Probability, Statistics
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A A pasting lemma counterexample (of sorts)
From the pasting lemma we have that if ## X = A \cup B ## and ##f: A \rightarrow Y ## and ## g: A \rightarrow Y## are continuous functions that coincide on ## A \cup B ##, they combine to give a continuous function ## h: X \rightarrow Y ## s.t. ## h(x) = f(x) ## for ## x \in A ## and ## h(x) =...- dkotschessaa
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- Counterexample
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- Forum: Topology and Analysis
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Challenge Aren't you tired of counterexamples already?
And we continue our parade of counterexamples! Most of them are again in the field of real analysis, but I put some other stuff in there as well. This time the format is a bit different. We present 10 statements that are all of the nature ##P## if and only if ##Q##. As it turns out, only one of...- micromass
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- challenge counterexample micromass
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- Forum: Math Proof Training and Practice
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Challenge Yet another counterexample challenge
Well, the last thread of counterexamples was pretty fun. So why not do it again! Again, I present you a list with 10 mathematical statements. The only rub now is that only ##9## are false, thus one of the statements is true. Provide a counterexample to the false statements and a proof for the...- micromass
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- challenge counterexample micromass
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- Forum: Math Proof Training and Practice
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Challenge Micromass' big counterexample challenge
I adore counterexamples. They're one of the most beautiful things about math: a clevery found ugly counterexample to a plausible claim. Below I have listed 10 statements about basic analysis which are all false. Your job is to find the correct counterexample. Some are easy, some are not so easy...- micromass
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- challenge counterexample micromass
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- Forum: Math Proof Training and Practice
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MHB UFDs .... Counterexample - I_8 = Z/8Z
I am reading Joseph J. Rotman's book: A First Course in Abstract Algebra with Applications (Third Edition) ... I am currently focused on Section 3.6 Unique Factorization ... I need help with an aspect of Example 3.70 ... The relevant text from Rotman's book is as...- Math Amateur
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- Counterexample
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- Forum: Linear and Abstract Algebra
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MHB Direct sum of p-primary components of an R-module counterexample?
Let $x \in R - \{0\},$ where $R$ is a domain. Define $T_x(M) = \{m \in M \ | \ x^n m=0 \ \ \mathrm{for \ some} \ n \in \mathbb{N}\}$ as the $x$-torsion of $M.$ I know that $T_x(M \oplus N) = T_x(M) \oplus T_x(N)$ for $R$-modules $M,N$ only if $R$ is a PID. But I can't think of a...- kalish1
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- Components Counterexample Direct sum Sum
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- Forum: Linear and Abstract Algebra
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MHB Solving for $\theta$: Which Value is a Counterexample?
Which value for $\theta$ is a counterexample to sin^2$\theta$+cos^2$\theta$=tan^2$\theta$ as an identity? a) pi/4 b) 5pi/4 c) pi/3 d) It is an identity So I tried subbing in each value (a, b, c) in as x and then finding the exact value from that but I'm not getting it.- eleventhxhour
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- Counterexample Value
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- Forum: General Math
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Looking for counterexample in inequality proof
Hi guys, I have to teach inequality proofs and am looking for an opinion on something. Lets say I have to prove that a2+b2≥2ab. (a very simple example, but I just want to demonstrate the logic behind the proof that I am questioning) Now the correct response would be to start with the...- cerealkiller
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- Counterexample Inequality Proof
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- Forum: General Math
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Looking for a Counterexample to show that a PowerSet is False
Homework Statement I am trying to find a counterexample to show why the below statement is False! ρ = PowerSet since I couldn't find the symbol. ρ(A x B) = ρ(A) x ρ(B) Homework Equations N/A The Attempt at a Solution Aside from googling for three days. I read/reread my...- Topgun_68
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- Counterexample
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- Forum: Precalculus Mathematics Homework Help
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MHB Find Counterexample for Expression about Limit of Composition Function
Suppose that $U$ is open in $\mathbb{R}^{m}$, that $L\in U$ and that $h:U\setminus \left \{ L \right \}\rightarrow \mathbb{R}^{p}$ for some $p\in N$. If $L=\lim_{x\rightarrow a}g(x)$ and $M=\lim_{y\rightarrow L}h(y)$. Then $\lim_{x\rightarrow a}(h\circ g)(x)=M$. (Someone told me that this...- i_a_n
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- Composition Counterexample Expression Function Limit
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- Forum: Topology and Analysis
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Is Correlation Coefficient an Informative Indicator in Real-World Datasets?
Hi, Are you aware of any dataset (in R or elsewhere) consisting of a sample from two variables where the correlation coefficient is (approximately) equal to 1, but the variables refer to completely irrelevant things, i.e. one measuring something that happens on Earth and the other something...- alex.kin.
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- Correlation Counterexample
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- Forum: Set Theory, Logic, Probability, Statistics
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Counterexample where X is not in the Lebesgue linear space.
Example where X is not in the Lebesgue linear space. Homework Statement I'm trying to find an example where \lim_{n \to +\infty} P(|X|>n) = 0 but X \notin L where L is the Lebesgue linear space. Relevant equations: X is a random variabel, P is probability. I is indicator function. The...- mehr1methanol
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- Counterexample Linear Space
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- Forum: Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
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Counterexample where X is not in the Lebesgue linear space.
I'm trying to find a counterexample where \lim_{n \to +\infty} P(|X|>n) = 0 but X \notin L where L is the lebesgue linear space. ∫|X|I(|X|>n)dp + ∫|X|I(|X|≤n)dp = ∫|X|dp therefore ∫nI(|X|>n)dp + ∫|X|I(|X|)dp ≤ ∫|X|dp Suppose ∫I(|X|>n)dp = 1/(n ln n) Clearly the hypothesis is satisfied...- mehr1methanol
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- Counterexample Linear Space
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- Forum: Set Theory, Logic, Probability, Statistics
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Normal matrix that isn't diagonalizable; counterexample?
I've been reading that the diagonalizable matrices are normal, that is, they commute with their adjoint: ##M^*M=MM^*##, where ##M^*## is the conjugate transpose of ##M##. So a matrix is diagonalizable if and only if it is normal, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_matrix But from...- algebrat
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- Counterexample Matrix Normal
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- Forum: Linear and Abstract Algebra
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Help Me Prove this Identity (or find a counterexample)
Let f be an analytic function defined in an open set containing the closed unit disk and let z in ℂ be fixed. I've simplified a more complicated expression down to this identity, and as implausible as it looks, after some numerical checking it does in fact appear to be true, but I can't find a...- Poopsilon
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- Counterexample Identity
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- Forum: Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
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Help finding a counterexample for a relation's transitivity
Homework Statement I'll spare most of the details, R = {(x,y) | |x-y| < 5} I need to find a counter-example to show that it is not transitive. I'm having trouble. The Attempt at a Solution First, in order to find a counter example, I know this must be satisfied: | x - y | < 5...- 1MileCrash
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- Counterexample
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- Forum: Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
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Prove trigonometric identity and determine a counterexample
Homework Statement cos(x-y)cosy-sin(x-y)siny=cosx a.try to prove that the equation is an identity b. determine a counterexample to show that it is not an identity Homework Equations cos(x-y) = cosxcosy+sinxsiny sin(x-y) = sinxcosy-cosxsiny The Attempt at a Solution a.Left side of...- euro94
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- Counterexample Identity Trigonometric Trigonometric identity
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- Forum: Precalculus Mathematics Homework Help
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MHB Is the Harmonic Series a Counterexample to a Convergent Series?
Give a counterexample to $na_n\to 0,\ a_n\ge 0,\ a_n$ decreasing $\implies\sum a_n$ converges.- alexmahone
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- Counterexample
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- Forum: Topology and Analysis
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Prove or Counterexample problem
Hi - My first post here and was looking for some help with this problem. Not sure where to start so hope some pointers would get me going/thinking! Q: Suppose that there is a party with n ≥ 2 people and that each person gives presents to one or more people at the party (but no more than one...- FelixHelix
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- Counterexample
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- Forum: Set Theory, Logic, Probability, Statistics
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Counterexample intersections of 2 compacts is compact ?
Counterexample "intersections of 2 compacts is compact"? Hello, I'm looking for a counterexample to "If A and B are compact subsets of a topological space X, then A \cap B is compact." It's not for homework. I found one online, but it talked about "double-pointed" things which I didn't...- nonequilibrium
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- Compact Counterexample
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- Forum: Topology and Analysis
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I can't think of a counterexample to disprove this set theory theorem
I can't think of a counterexample to disprove this set theory "theorem" Assume F and G are families of sets. IF \cupF \bigcap \cupG = ∅ (disjoint), THEN F \bigcap G are disjoint as well.- the baby boy
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- Counterexample Set Set theory Theorem Theory
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- Forum: Set Theory, Logic, Probability, Statistics
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Find a counterexample for a false statment about independent events.
"Construct a sample space to show that the truth of this statement P(A\bigcapB\bigcapC)=P(A)*P(B)*P(C) is not enough for the events A,B,C to be mutually independent. Hint: Try finite sample spaces with equally likely simple events." So, my though is that I need to find a sample space with...- spyrustheviru
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- Counterexample Events Independent
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- Forum: Set Theory, Logic, Probability, Statistics
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Proving if R1 \ R2 is Transitive or Not
Homework Statement Suppose R1 and R2 are relations on A. Therefore, R1 \subseteqA X A and R2 \subseteqA X A Homework Equations Let (x, y) and (y, z) \inR1. Then since R1 is transitive, xR1y, and yR1z implies xR1z. Does R1\R2 mean: (x,y)...- IntroAnalysis
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- Counterexample
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- Forum: Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
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Discrete Math- Irrational numbers, proof or counterexample
Homework Statement Determine if the statement is true or false. Prove those that are true and give a counterexample for those that are false. If r is any rational number and if s is any irrational number, then r/s is irrational. Homework Equations A rational number is equal to the...- abjf9299
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- Counterexample Discrete Discrete math Irrational Irrational numbers Numbers Proof
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Incredibly close to a modular arithmetic proof by minimum counterexample
As stated in the title, I am trying to prove a statement by minimum counterexample involving modular arithmetic. My problem is producing the contradiction, but I feel so close! (The contradiction is p^m | (1 + p)^{p^{m - 1}} - 1) Homework Statement Let p be an odd prime and let n be a...- jdinatale
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- Arithmetic Counterexample Minimum Proof
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Counterexample for set identity
Homework Statement Consider the function f:X \to Y. Suppose that A and B are subsets of X. Decide whether the following statements are necessarily true (I am including just the one I had trouble with): (a) if A\cap B = \emptyset , then f[A]\cap f[B] = \emptyset Homework Equations The...- WannabeNewton
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- Counterexample Identity Set
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Looking for Gauss-Bonnet counterexample
Hello everybody! I was looking for a counterexample to Gauss-Bonnet Theorem, that is, a region R \subset \Sigma (with \Sigma \subset \mathbb{R}^3 surface) such that \partial R isn't union of closed piecewise regular curves and for which the Gauss Bonnet Theorem doesn't holds, i.e. \iint_R{K...- Goklayeh
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- Counterexample
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Is there any counterexample to this ?
is there any counterexample to this ?? let be the Fourier transform G(s) = \int_{-\infty}^{\infty}dxf(x)exp(isx) with the properties f(x) and D^{2}f(x) are EVEN funnctions of 'x' f(x) > 0 and D^{2}f(x) > 0 on the whole interval (-oo,oo) then G(s) has only REAL roots...- zetafunction
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- Counterexample
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Confused with using Proof by Smallest Counterexample
When proving by smallest counterexample, you assume an integer k>1 where it is the smallest integer for which statement Sn is false. Then you proceed to prove that Sk-1 implies Sk. Where you deduce a contradiction by which k is true. Can't you prove this directly by assuming Sk-1 is true and...- RichardParker
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- Confused Counterexample Proof
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Can the Product of n Consecutive Positive Integers Be Divisible by n!?
Homework Statement Using the minimal counterexample technique prove that the product of n consecutive positive integers is always divisible by n! The Attempt at a Solution Suppose that the statement is not true and the product of n consecutive positive integers is not always divisible by...- roam
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- Counterexample
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Proof using counterexample. HELP
1. Prove by minimum counterexample that for all n>=0, 5/(32n)-4n) 2. Homework Equations : proof by induction? 3. I tried plugging in 0 for n because that would be the minimum counterexample since 5 can't divide 0. If it's not zero it might be 2 because that works as well. I'm not sure...- limegreen00
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- Counterexample Proof
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Testing the Convergence of Series: A Counterexample
Homework Statement If \sum_{k=1}^{\infty} a_k converges and a_k/b_k \to 0 as k\to \infty, then \sum_{k=1}^{\infty} b_k converges.Homework Equations It is true or false.The Attempt at a Solution I think it is false and here is my counterexample. Let a_k = 0,b_k=\frac{1}{k}. This satisfies our...- DEMJ
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- Convergence Counterexample Series Testing
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Counterexample for a premeasure on a semiring over Q
Homework Statement Let \alpha(r)=r and let P be the family of intervals [a,b) in \mathbb{Q}. Define \mu_{\alpha}([a,b))=\alpha(b)-\alpha(a). Show by example that \mu_{\alpha} is not countably additive.Homework Equations \mu is countably additive if for any sequence of mutually disjoint subsets...- variety
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- Counterexample
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Counterexample: (u + v)^2 ≠ u2 + v2
Find a counterexample to the statement "For all real numbers u and v, (u + v)^2 is not equal to u2 + v2."- relyt
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- Counterexample
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Is There a Counterexample to the Function Composition Property?
Homework Statement Let f: A\to B. I'm trying to find a function g: B\to C such that g is not 1-1 but g\circ f is. The original assignment (which I've completed) was to prove that for all functions f: A\to B and g: B\to C, if g\circ f is 1-1, then so is f. However, in the process of...- foxjwill
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- Counterexample Function
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Infinite dimensional counterexample
Homework Statement Let V be a finite dimensional vector space and let W be a subspace of V. 1. Then V is the direct sum of W and W' where W' denotes the orthogonal complement of W. 2. Also, (W')' = W, i.e the orthogonal complement of the orthgonal complement of W is again W. My...- Carl140
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- Counterexample Infinite
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Is the Inverse of a Continuous Function Always Continuous?
Homework Statement Let ( X, \tau_x) (Y, \tau_y) topological spaces, (x_n) an inheritance that converges at x \in X, and let f_*:X\rightarrow Y[/itex]. Then, [tex]f[/itex] is continuos, if given (x_n) that converges at [tex]x \in X , then [tex]f((x_n))[/itex] converges at...- seed21
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- Counterexample Topology
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Counterexample and Proving for Sets A, B, C
Homework Statement 1. Provide a counterexample to the following conjecture: For sets A, B, C \subseteq U if A is a subset of B but B is not a subset of C, then A is not a subset of C 2. (A\cap B) \cup C = (A \cap (B \cup C)) if and only if C \subseteq A 3. Prove (A - B) - C = (A...- Cyborg31
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- Counterexample Sets
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Simple counterexample for claim about integral domains
So I'm looking for an example of an infinite integral domain with finite characterestic. That is a infinite integral domain such that there is a prime p such that p copies of any element added together is the additive identity. I'm just looking for a simple counterexample. I'm working...- SiddharthM
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- Counterexample domains Integral
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Solving 1.8.5 Part b): Is It a Counterexample?
Homework Statement Is what I wrote on the left hand margin a counterexample to 1.8.5 part a) ? EDIT: I meant part b) Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution- ehrenfest
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- Counterexample
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Counterexample for an alternate definition for a group
This is another problem from Herstein. The first problem 12 asks to prove that if G is closed under associative product and (a) there is a e so that for any element a in G we have ae=a (b) for each a in G there is a y(a) so that ay(a)=e then G is a group. Although it took me some time to do...- SiddharthM
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- Counterexample Definition Group
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- Forum: Linear and Abstract Algebra
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Counterexample so that (ab)^i=a^ib^i for two consecutive integers
counterexample so that (ab)^i=a^ib^i for two consecutive integers for any a and b in a group G does not imply that G is abelian. this is a problem in herstein and I'm struggling to find an example. The previous problem to show that if (ab)^i=a^ib^i for 3 consecutive integers then G is...- SiddharthM
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- Counterexample Integers
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Can a Continuous and Integrable Function Have an Infinite Limit?
Hi all, I'm looking for a positive real-valued function definition on all of R such that the function f(x) is continuous and integrable (the improper integral from -infinity to infinity exists and is finite) but that lim sup f(x)=infinity as x goes to infinity. I'm thinking about something with...- lynxman72
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- Calculus Counterexample
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Counterexample: Showing the Non-Continuity of a Function with Rational Values
I was asked to show whether this is true: f(x) is defined for all x in [a,b] with f(b) > f(a) [values given]. the values of f at any x in (a,b) is rational. So, is f(x) continous? I think this is not continuous as this seems like the question is trying to use intermediate value property to...- loli12
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- Counterexample
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- Forum: Calculus and Beyond Homework Help