Gradient Definition and 698 Threads

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    How to deduct the gradient in spherical coordinates?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gradient#Cylindrical_and_spherical_coordinates which formula do we apply to get the gradient in spherical coordinates?
  2. A

    Understanding the Pole Singularity in Gradient of A

    in a text a read that " \oint \nabla A \cdot dl = 2 \pi n wich implies that the gradient of A has a pole singularity" why there is a singularity? I thing that this is a contidion to integral is nonzero but ¿what is the theorem used?
  3. Mandelbroth

    Interpretation of the Gradient Vector?

    I've always thought of the gradient of a scalar function (id est, ##\nabla\varphi##) as being a vector field. However, I started thinking about it just now in terms of transformation with respect to coordinate changes, and I noticed that the gradient transforms covariantly. Thus, shouldn't the...
  4. C

    Learn Gradient Intuition: A Beginner's Guide

    Hi there, I just started to learn about gradients. I can calculate them with ease; but I don't think I really understand them conceptually. I understand the usual example of the temperature scalar field where the temperature in a room is a function of your position T(x, y, z). But when it comes...
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    Hot Air Balloon Shape and Pressure Gradient Within the Envelope

    I am interested in the math involved to calculate the ideal natural teardrop shape for a hot air balloon. I want to learn the details of what is involved to calculate this accurately. I read this https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=658802 which was a really nice start, but it...
  6. S

    Smallest curvature radius in gradient index optics

    Hello, would someone know what is the smallest radius of curvature achievable with current gradient index optics (GRIN) technology? I mean, how much could one "curve" a ray of light? Many thanks! :smile:
  7. S

    Type of curvature of gradient force from edge to center of a sphere

    I was doing some simple physics with a ball resting on a table and I made this curve (0,0) (25, 6.8) (50, 27.51) (75, 63.4) (100, 112.34) (125, 175.7) (150, 253.3) (175, 345.4) I was wondering if anyone could identify what sort of curve it is? I am just curious. This is not a homework...
  8. R

    How Does the Gradient Force Arise in Lasers?

    how come there is an electrical gradient in lasers? i means lasers are just monochromatic photons so how come a particle feels an electrical force there
  9. D

    Gradient theorem for time-dependent vector field

    Let's say we have some time-independent scalar field \phi. Obviously \phi\left(\mathbf{q}\right)-\phi\left(\mathbf{p}\right) = \int_{\gamma[\mathbf{p},\,\mathbf{q}]} \nabla\phi(\mathbf{x})\cdot d\mathbf{x}. This is of course still true if the path \gamma is the trajectory of a particle moving...
  10. K

    Meaning of gradient and intercept

    Homework Statement The velocity of a body traveling in a circular orbit around another body situated at the centre of the circle, is given by v = √(GM/r) where G is the Universal Gravitational constant, M is the mass of the central body and r is the radius of the orbit. By taking natural...
  11. K

    What do the gradient magnets do on MRI scanners?

    I am trying to understand MRI scanners. I know that MRIs work by aligning the protons in the direction of the large magnetic field and the radio frequency sets the frequency of the oscillations to the lamour frequency - also raising its energy level. Then when the RF is switched off, the...
  12. D

    Vector Calculus - gradient geometry

    Hello. I can't seem to wrap my head around the geometry of the gradient vector in ℝ3 So for F=f(x(t),y(t)), \frac{dF}{dt}=\frac{dF}{dx}\frac{dx}{dt}+\frac{dF}{dy}\frac{dy}{dt} This just boils down to \frac{dF}{dt}=∇F \cdot v Along a level set, the dot product of the gradient vector and...
  13. S

    Griffiths Electrodynamics gradient of charge distribution

    I do not understand the following from Griffiths’ Electrodynamics – page 424 Equation 10.21. \nabla p = \dot{p} \nabla {tr} = … I’m not sure how much of this applies (I think my question is on the math) but p is the charge distribution, tr is the retarded time. Is this an...
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    Gradient ∇4: Generalizing for Spacetime and Proving its Four-Vector Properties

    Hi, Homework Statement The gradient ∇3 can be generalized for spacetime as: ∇4 =(∇3 ,d/dct)=(d/dx,d/dy,d/dz,d/dct) Show that ∇4 is a four-vector. Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution I just have to write that : d/dx'=γ(d/dx-βd/dct) d/dy'=d/dy d/dz'=d/dz...
  15. S

    Euler's Fluid Equations: Gradient of a Vector

    Hey guys, I'm not sure how to interpret euler's fluid equations \rho (\partial / \partial t + {\bf U} \cdot ∇) {\bf U} + ∇p = 0 I'm not sure what the meaning of {\bf U} \cdot ∇ {\bf U} is. am I able to simply evaulate the dot product as U_{x}\partial_{x} + U_{y}\partial_{y}+...
  16. A

    Gradient theorem by the divergence theorem

    Hi to all Homework Statement ∫∫∫∇ψdv = ∫∫ψ ds over R over S R is the region closed by a surface S here dv and ψ are given as scalars and ds is given as a vector quantitiy. and questions asks for establishing the gradient theorem by appliying the divergence theorem to each component...
  17. M

    Gradient Problem: Find Rate of Change, Direction, & Maximum Increase

    Homework Statement T(x,y,z)=8x^2-7xy+7xyz a. find the rate of change of t at point p(-1,1,-1) in the direction u=<8,10,-8> b. which direction does the temperature increase fastest c. find the maximum rate of increase at P. Homework Equations gradient of T=(16x-7y+7yz, -7x+7xz, 7xy)...
  18. M

    How to find direction from gradient?

    Homework Statement if f(x,y,z) indicates electrical charge in the water at position(x,y,z) and the gradient is <12,-20,5>, in which direction should the shark swim to find its prey? Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution is the answer in the direction of <12,-20,5> im...
  19. A

    Why do gradient show rate of maximum increase ?

    Why do gradient show rate of maximum increase not decrease always?
  20. E

    Gradient of an absolute value raise to a power

    Homework Statement Show that ∇_{x}|x-y|-3= -(x-y)|x-y|-3 x and y are vectors.Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution When dealing with just a straight up absolute value I know that a solution can be found by using a piece wise approach, but I don't think that's what I should be using...
  21. T

    Oxygen Flow Through a Concentration Gradient

    Hi guys First things first, I'll lay out the problem. I have a box of volume V containing a constant sink of oxygen (e.g. a candle or an animal); this box is sealed except for a smallish aperture of area, A and depth, L (the L meaning the walls of the box have finite thickness). After a...
  22. skate_nerd

    MHB Find the gradient of a function at a given point, sketch level curve

    So I have a function \(f(x,y)=\sqrt{2x+3y}\) and need to find the gradient at the point (-1,2). I got this part already, its \(\frac{1}{2}\hat{i}+\frac{3}{4}\hat{j}\). The part I'm having trouble with is when it asks me to sketch the gradient with the level curve that passes through (-1,2). The...
  23. V

    Using gradient values of a graph to determine angular acceleration

    Homework Statement I recently conducted an experiment to determine the moment of inertia of a disc using a tachometer attached to a disc marked with reflected strips, a weight, and an oscilloscope. The resulting oscilloscope data was plugged into fitplot to generate a graph of voltage...
  24. J

    Possible to find a gradient system for this?

    Homework Statement Does x' = xex2tanh(x+y) + (1/2)ex2sech2(x+y) y' = (1/2)ex2sech2(x+y) contain a limit cycle? Possibly-relevant theorem below. Homework Equations Theorem. Closed orbits are impossible in gradient systems. Definition. If x' = -ΔV for some cont. diff'ble, single-valued...
  25. K

    Uncertainty on best fit gradient

    Hi everyone, I have a plot of some data points that have error bars on the y axis. A bit of software I am using gives me the best fit gradient and a "Standard Error", but it doesn't take the size of error bars into consideration. I'm assuming that it just looks at how well the gradient...
  26. A

    MHB Find Magnitude of Gradient in Vector Y(x2,x3,x4)

    I'm a bit confused here. If I have Y(x2,x3,x4)=(sqrt(1-x2^2-x3^2-x4^2),x2,x3,x4), how do I find the magnitude of the gradient? I know that for Y(s)=(sqrt(1-s^2),s) the gradient is (-s/sqrt(1-s^2),s) and the magnitude of the gradient is 1/sqrt(1-s^2), and I'm supposed to get an expression similar...
  27. D

    How can the gradient of a scalar field be covarient?

    According to Carroll, \nabla \phi is covariant under rotations. This really confuses me. For example, how could equations like \vec{F}=-\nabla V be rotationally covariant if force is a contravariant vector? I know this is strictly speaking more of a mathy question, but I still figured this...
  28. S

    Relation between particle spin with gradient

    Can we approach spin by gradient. For example, spin 1/2 can be written as 180 degree turning in 360 degree space while spin 2 is 720 degree turning in 360 degree space? If I have a ball spinning with angular momentum perpendicular to rotation plane, what is the spin value of the ball? Can some...
  29. L

    Gradient of a dot product identity proof?

    Gradient of a dot product identity proof? Homework Statement I have been given a E&M homework assignment to prove all the vector identities in the front cover of Griffith's E&M textbook. I have trouble proving: (1) ∇(A\bulletB) = A×(∇×B)+B×(∇×A)+(A\bullet∇)B+(B\bullet∇)A Homework...
  30. A

    Can you find the gradient of a vector?

    Homework Statement I know you can find the gradient of a scalar using partial derivatives. Does it make sense to find the gradient of a vector, however? A homework problem of mine asks to find the gradient of a vector. I'm starting to think it's a trick question... Homework Equations ∇ dot...
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    Understanding the Concept of Gradient for a Zero Function

    Suppose F(x,y,z) = 0 grad (F) = 0 ? e.g. F = x + y + z grad (F) = <1,1,1> =/= <0,0,0> ?? I don't know why I get an opposite result
  32. B

    Gradient Vector Problem: Steepness and Slope Direction?

    Homework Statement For a hill the elevation in meters is given by z=10 + .5x +.25y + .5xy - .25x^2 -.5y^2, where x is the distance east and y is the distance north of the origin. a.) How steep is the hill at x=y=1 i.e. what is the angle between a vector perpendicular to the hill and the z...
  33. S

    Gradient and Laplacian of three functions

    Hello, I've been reading up on Smoothed Particle Hydrodynamics. While reading some papers I found some math that I do not know how to do because I never took multi variable calculus. I need the gradient and laplacian of all three of the following functions ( h is a constant )...
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    Partial derivative chain rule for gradient

    Homework Statement compute the gradient: ln(z / (sqrt(x^2-y^2)) Homework Equations ∇=(∂/(∂x)) + ... for y and z I just want to know how to do the first term with respect to x The Attempt at a Solution I am so rusty I don't know where to begin.
  35. D

    MHB How is the Gradient of u(r,θ) Calculated?

    I have $$ u(r,\theta) = r\cos(\theta)\left[1 - \left(\frac{1}{r}\right)^2\right] $$ and the gradient is $$ 1 + \frac{2 x^2}{(x^2 + y^2)^2} - \frac{1}{x^2 + y^2}, \frac{2 x y}{(x^2 + y^2)^2} $$ How was this obtained?
  36. T

    Continuum Mechanics - Deformation gradient

    Hi all, I am trying to self-learn continuum mechanics, and I have a question regarding the development of the deformation gradient (which ultimately leads to green's deformation tensor). I have attached the specifics of the question in a attached photo. Ultimately, there comes a point...
  37. D

    Does Gradient of Fugacity Create Entropy?

    There have been some discussions here as to what type of processes create entropy rather than just move it around. It is established that a gradient of temperature can create entropy. However, the issue moved to partial pressure, and then even away from that. The previous discussion...
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    Gradient theorem, why F=-grad(U) ?

    I am having difficulties to understand why in mathematics when calculating line integrals using gradient theorem we use F=grad(U), and in physics it is always F=-grad(U)? It seems important to me, because I may end up getting answer with opposite sign. Is it somehow related to Newton's third law?
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    Application of gradient vector in 3D

    Homework Statement The temperature ##T## in a region of Cartesian ##(x,y,z)-## space is given by $$T(x,y,z) = (4 + 3x^2 + 2y^2 + z^2)^{10},$$ and a fly is intially at the point ##(-5,6,7)##. Find a vector parametric representation for the curve which the fly should move in order to ensure...
  40. T

    Question about expanding a square root in powers of gradient

    Hi, I have a quick question about making quantum mechanics relativistic by simply replacing the hamiltonian by a relativistic hamiltonian. If we write the hamiltonian operator as: H = \sqrt{P2c2 + m2c4}, schrodinger's equation in position basis becomes: i\hbar\dot{\psi} =...
  41. A

    Deeper understanding of the gradient and directional derivative

    Why does the formula for the gradient - that is (for functions of 2 variables), the partial with respect to x plus the partial with respect to y give the direction of greatest increase? i.e. the direction of maximum at some point on a surface is given by f_xi+f_yj And why, when you times...
  42. Nero26

    Recovering function from its gradient

    Hi all, I've to recover a function ∅ such that F=∇∅,F=3x^2y i +(x^3+2yz)j+y^2k. So, ∂∅/∂x=3x^2y, Integrating w.r.t. x ∅=x^3y+f(y,z) ,Assuming there may be function of y and z.----------1 ∴∂∅/∂y=x^3+f'(y,z) now, ∂∅/∂y=(x^3+2yz)=x^3+f'(y,z) ∴f'(y,z)=2yz To find ∅ from 1 I've to find...
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    Propagation of Errors - Error on Gradient

    Homework Statement So I'm trying to calculate the error on the gradient I've obtained for my lab work. The line of best fit is too precise to use the parallelogram method and I'm still at the stage of my course where calculations of the gradient and such must be done by hand and not using a...
  44. A

    Find the gradient of 1/mod{r-r'}

    Homework Statement Find \nabla\left( \dfrac{1}{\left| \vec{r}-\vec{r'}\right| }\right) Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution \left| \vec{r}-\vec{r'}\right| =\sqrt{(x-x^\prime)^2 + (y-y^\prime)^2 + (z-z^\prime)^2} and so therefore the derivative of the scalar would be 0. Of...
  45. T

    Finding level curves in relation to gradient vectors

    Homework Statement Suppose f:R^2 - {0} → R is a differentiable function whose gradient is nowhere 0 and that satisfies -y(df/dx) + x(df/dy) = 0 everywhere. a) find the level curves of f b) Show that there is a differentiable function F defined on the set of positive real numbers so that...
  46. K

    Finding gradient of slope involving angle

    Homework Statement Find the equations of both the straight lines that are inclined at an angle of 45 ° with straight line 2x + y - 3 = 0 and passing through the point (-1 , 4) Homework Equations tan θ = (m1 - m2)/(1+ m1m2) The Attempt at a Solution If I were to use the equation above, how...
  47. O

    What is the proof for the property of taking the gradient of a function?

    Homework Statement Show that the operation of taking the gradient of a function has the given property. Assume u and v are differentiable functions of x and y and that a and b are constants. Operation: (∇(u))n = n*un-1*∇u Homework Equations The gradient vector of f is <∂f/∂x,∂f/∂y>, where f...
  48. A

    Python [Python] Optimization: determining gradient with variable window size

    Hi all, I'm not quite sure if this is the right place to post my question, so forgive me if its not... I've written a program in Python that analyses data that I got from a compression experiment (mechanical testing of rocks and such), and I've written a piece of code that estimates the...
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    Basic doubt about the gradient in spherical polar cordinates.

    Let's say we have a scalar function U in terms of r,theta and phi. why cannot this be the gradient at any point P(r,theta,phi)- partial of U wrt. r in the direction of r+partial of U wrt. theta in direction of (theta)+partial of U wrt. phi in the direction of (phi)?
  50. B

    Calculating the Slitwidth of a Diffraction Gradient

    Homework Statement A set of narrow vertical slits is located a distance D from a screen. The slits are equally spaced and have the same width. The intensity pattern in the figure is observed when light from a laser passes through the slits, illuminating them uniformly. The screen is...
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