Virtual work Definition and 61 Threads

Hello I did part 1 of this HW using the rules for findint Instantaneous Center of Rotations in STATICS (Hauptpol in german) and Nebenpol (idk how to translate it). I attached my calculation and it's supposed to be the right answer. I replaced the two forces on A (piston force Ah and vertical...

The answer is as such: There’s only one way for the system to move: the rectangle can deform into a parallelogramso that the left horizontal arm moves up, and the right horizontal arm moves down by thesame amount. Then the total virtual work done on the scale by the weights is zero, so thesystem...

Goldstein 2ed pg 36 So in the case of holonomic constraints we can move back and forth between Hamiltons principle and Lagrange equations given as ##\frac{d}{d t}\left(\frac{\partial L}{\partial \dot{q}_{j}}\right)-\frac{\partial L}{\partial q_{j}}=0## But the Lagrange equations were...

Suppose I'm considering a system of N particles that are constrained in their possible motions and so there are less that 3N generalized coordinates. Suppose now I perform a virtual displacement on one particle, which due to some constraints might force some other particles to more virtually...

In this 2D figure below, I can place: a motor at O a motor at J gravity on each link I can use Hamilton's principle, modified to the principle of virtual work and I can compute the motion of the linkage system. I do not have to account for these force FOUR forces (in this planar problem)...

Hi there, this question has already been discussed in this forum, however I do not know how to proceed further and if my reasoning is correct. I start by imagining a downard displacement of the 1kg weight. As a consequence of this, block A moves upward and to the right. Also, block B moves...

(I do understand there are many ways to formulate the FE method, but I wish to understand this one.) I understand that Hamilton's Principle is just that: a principle ( a law the recapitulates the equations of motion) I also understand that the Principle of Virtual Work (PVW) is a reformulation...

Found a question on another website, I have the exact same question. Please help me Goldstein says : I do not understand how (2.34) shows that the virtual work done by forces of constraint is zero. How does the fact that "the same Hamilton's principle holds for both holonomic and...

I imagined the bar slipping along a virtual displacement, with the top and the bottom slipping by equal amounts. Since the planes are orthogonal, I took the components of these displacements: the lower end is displaced Lsinα in the direction of the right plane and by Lcosα in the direction of...

So I tried using force balancing. I have attached files of my solution in my notebook Torque balancing about O which gives me equation 1 And I used property of triangle, for equation 2 But i can't seem to get the right answer Also, I was wondering if it could be done by concept of virtual work.

If 1kg make a displacement of 1unit upward then A make a 1/2unit down because 1/sin 30.after that i have no idea what do I will really need help. Thanks!

From what I understand, constraint forces do no work because they are perpendicular to the allowed virtual displacements of the system. However, if you consider an unbalanced Atwood machine, in which both masses are accelerating in opposite directions, you'll find that the tension force of the...

Hello May I ask: "What is the guiding philosophy of the Principle of Virtual Work?" I do understand it an how to use it, in classical mechanics. (And I will openly admit that I do not entirely understand what I am looking for, or what I am asking.) But what is happening at this moment in...

The first chapter in Goldstein's Classical Mechanics ends with 3 examples about how to apply Lagrange's eqs. to simple problems. The second example is about the Atwood's machine. The book says that the tension of the rope can be ignored, but I don't understand why. The two masses can move...

Homework Statement Homework Equations ## \vec \tau = \Sigma \vec r_i \times \vec F_i ## The Attempt at a Solution ## \vec \tau = \Sigma \vec r_i \times \vec F_i ## ## \delta W = \Sigma F_i \delta x_i ## Let's take our Cartesian coordinate system such that the axis of rotation...

I always thought that the principle of virtual work (PVW) is valid for all structures, including continuous structures (like bars, beams, plates, etc.). However, in his book 'Fundamentals of Structural Mechanics', Hjelmstad states that the PVW is only valid for discrete systems with N particles...

Hello guys, came across some Analytical Physics lectures (http://www.physics.rutgers.edu/ugrad/227_f11/classes/lect08.pdf) that got me confused. It is described in the lecture the problem of determining the force between capacitor plates for a constant voltage (ie. connected to a battery). For...

I can't for the life of me figure out what virtual work or D'alemberts principle mean and what the intuition behind them is. As far as I'm concerned D'alemberts principle is just a restatement of Newton's second law but considering the work instead of just the forces. What am I missing? I'm...

This link shows us how to derive Hamilton's generalised principle starting from D'Alembert's principle. While I had no trouble understanding the derivation I am stuck on this particular step. I can't justify why ## \frac{d}{dt} \delta r_i = \delta [\frac{d}{dt}r_i] ##. This is because if I...

Homework Statement Use “virtual work” to calculate the attractive force between conductors in the parallel plate capacitor (area A, separation z). That is, use conservation of energy to determine how much work must be done to move one plate by an infinitesimal amount, and then use the value of...

The last chapter of most introductory textbooks on STATICS introduces VIRTUAL WORK. It is rarely taught (I studied the syllabi of colleagues). I understand the Principle of Virtual Work, having researched and studied the Calculus of Variations, Hamilton's Principle, the Lagrangian and related...

Homework Statement A cart on an inclined plane is balanced by the weight w. All parts have negligible friction. Find the weight W of the cart using the principle of virtual work. Picture of set-up is attached.Homework Equations ∫Fdh = 0 for virtual displacement dh in statics F_p = W cos...

I do not see how (2.34) shows that forces of semi-holonomic constraints do no work in the displacements ##\delta q_k## between the varied path and the actual path. Starting from (2.31), I seem to be able to prove that such forces do do work, in contrary to what is claimed in the paragraph...

Homework Statement We have a system (see attached graphics) of two rods with length ##l## and mass ##m## and some external force ##F##. The coefficients ##k## of the two springs are given. The springs have no deformation when ##\varphi =0##. a) Find generalized force of the system. b) Determine...

Why is there no virtual work done by a rolling friction? In pure rolling, is the virtual displacement parallel or perpendicular to the surface? I believe it can't be perpendicular because the object is not allowed to lose contact with the surface. But if it's parallel, then there must be a...

Homework Statement Find the tension T needed to hold the cart shown (pic included) in equilibrium, no friction. Using virtual work, and force components. (I don't care about signs, just looking for the magnitude of tension with quick reasoning) (not homework, just studying virtual work)...

Homework Statement Hello, I'm having problems determining the relationships between delta a and delta c . I don't see how how delta C = 4/9 delta A [/B] http://imgur.com/a/B6eTx Thank you.

Homework Statement A loop of flexible chain, of total weight W, rests on a smooth, frictionless right circular cone of base radius r and height h. The chain rests in a horizontal circle on the cone, whose axis is vertical. Find the tension in the chain. Homework Equations Virtual work, but...

Homework Statement The system shown in Fig. 2-6 is in static equilibrium. Use the principle of virtual work to find the weights A and B. Neglect the weight of the strings and the friction in the pulleys. Quick aside: This is straight out of the Exercises for the Feynman Lectures on Physics, in...

1. The problem statement, all variables and /known data Help! I'm stuck on an exceedingly simple statics problem, number 2.24 in the New Millennium edition of exercises for the Feynman lectures. The problem consists of an inclined plane (inclination angle 30 degrees) on wheels with a...

Homework Statement How can one show/prove that for a beam (hinged supports on both ends) subjected to bending due to a uniformly distributed load over its entire length, the virtual work of internal forces is equal to the virtual work of external forces? Given are the length of the beam (L)...

Homework Statement The system shown in Fig. 2-6 is in static equilibrium. Use the principle of virtual work to find the weights A and B. Neglect the weight of the strings and the friction in the pulleys. Homework Equations Conservation of gravitational potential energy. The Attempt at a...

hello, I want to apply the virtual work principle to a continuous mechanical system to derive equilibrium equation, naemly, a long thin bar with one end fixed in the wall and other end applied with pressure P. but I can not derive the correct equilibrium equations. I hope some expert could give...

dear all, the virtual work pinciple can be used to derive the equilibrium equations for the mechanical systems. however, when I want to apply it to a continuous system, I found it can not give out the simple equilibrium equations. there should be something wrong with my thinking. I expect some...

Homework Statement I want to calculate the horizontal deflections at joints A and F (using Virtual Work method taught in Structural Engineering). Cross-Sectional Area (A) and E values are provided in the problem, and the attachment has all relevant dimensions and applied loads.Homework...

https://www.physicsforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=65907&stc=1&d=1390369310 I've been stuck on doing my revision on this problem. The equation of the virtual work, from what I deduce is [du = 0] -Pdx + mg dh However the answer given is...

I understand that accepting Hamilton's principle will yield identical results as accepting Newton's laws. However, simply accepting that the integral of the difference between kinetic and potential energies is an extrema seems not intuitively obvious. The textbook that I used for my classical...

I'm studying for our comprehensive exam . I just need to clarify something. So the equation of motion for lagrangian dynamics is \frac{d}{dt}\frac{\partial L}{\partial\dot{q}_{i}} = \frac{\partial L}{\partial {q}_{i}} However, in my notes there are example which uses the principle of virtual...

Dear All, I did post this issues in the physics forum, however there is somebody ask me to post it in the engineering forum. With this I re-post it here. Does anyone here familiar with a theory called Principal Virtual Work (Equilibrium theory) ? I read somewhere that with this theory, i...

Dear All, Does anyone here familiar with a theory called Principal Virtual Work (Equilibrium theory) ? I read somewhere that with this theory, i could relate(for pipeline application - collapse & buckling) the components for ovalisation, external pressure and hoop strain. Appreciate if...

Hi I am trying to calculate the vertical displacement at point C for the following diagram https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/57161 So far i have calculated the forces in each member and i now need to calculate the Virtual forces! I applied a virtual load at point c of 1 KN. I also...

Homework Statement see attachment Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution I think #1 is to find the bending moment equation, then use the principle of virtual work. I have no idea how to find the bending moment equation and which principle of virtual work to use. Any...

For linear elastic materials (3D General)... The virtual work equation looks exactly like the equation for potential energy except that in the potential energy equation, the internal work term has a (1/2) coefficient. Why are these different?

Question about analytical mechanics. Suppose we have a system with N degrees of freedom, and hence N generalized coordinates {q_i}, \ i=1...N. A virtual displacement is defined as an infinitesimal change in a generalized coordinate without producing a change in the generalized velocities...

I have a few questions I thought I'd post together instead of making separate threads, hope that's ok. They are more or less unrelated... 1. Are there 2 conceptual ideas that use the term "virtual work"? I am familiar with the one from intro level physics, but I read there is also one from...

I refer to the figure: Is it true that affixing the rope at the point A isn't the same of affixing it at the point B? (I consider the rotation movement around O since the disk is rolling, and so the radius of rotation is different in the two cases) I'm sorry because my english is not very...

PROBLEM 1 Homework Statement The frame in the figure is supported by a hinge in A and a roller in G. It is loaded by a couple = 14 kN*m in B, a force = 12 kN in D and a distributed force = 4 kN/m on section EG. = 1.4 m. Calculate the normal force in C. Use the correct signs...

Hi, I've been reading chapter 4 in the Feynman Lectures on the conservation of energy and I've bought a book off amazon called Exercises in Introductory Physics which accompanies the series. Having looked at some of the questions I feel well out of my depth because essentially I haven't ever...

Hi all, I am having trouble understanding Virtual displacements and related ideas and would appreciate your help! Let's say we have a simple pendulum and we take a snapshot of this system at some instant of time : A 'virtual displacement' is said to be : - consistent with the constraints on...

Hi everyone, I'm studying applied dynamics for college. I have a simple question and then a more importante question: F=dq/dt=ma (torque)T=dL/dt What do you call these equations, Newton-euler equations? I use these equations all the time to relate forces and torques with motion, in certain...