Angular Momentum: Work Done & Frequency Change

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A discussion on angular momentum examines a scenario involving a man on a spinning chair holding weights, initially at a radius of 0.5m and a frequency of 1Hz, and analyzes how the frequency changes when the weights are moved to a radius of 0.2m. The conservation of angular momentum is applied, leading to a calculated new frequency of approximately 2.27Hz. The work done by the man is calculated using changes in kinetic energy, but the initial calculations yield a discrepancy with the expected answer of around 188.4J. Participants suggest considering the change in rotational kinetic energy for accurate results. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly applying physics principles to solve the problem.
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1st of all i apologise if my terminology is incorrect, as i am translating into english..

on a spinning chair a man is sitting and holding 2 weights, of 10kg each, at a radius of 0.5m, the chair is turning at a frequency of 1Hz., the total moment of the man and the chair is I=2.5kgm2. how will the frequency change is the man moves the weights to a radius of 0.2m? what is the work done by the man in this case?

what i did was, using conservation of momentum

Iweights=mr2=20*0.52=5kgm2
Iman+chair=2.5kgm2
L=I\omega=(5+2.5)(2\Pif)=15\Pi

conservation of momentum
Iweights=mr2=20*0.22=0.8kgm2
Iman+chair=2.5kgm2

L=15\Pi=(0.8+2.5)(2\Pif)

f=25/11Hz

is this correct,

now to find the work done, can i say- work done is the change of energy and using that, say,

Ei=Ek=0.5mv2
vi=2\Pifi*Ri=\Pi
Ei=10\Pi2j

Ef=Ek=0.5mv2
vf=2\Piff*Rf=(10/11)\Pi
Ef=81.566j

W=\DeltaE=0.5m(vf2-vi2)
=10*(8.157-9.87)=-17.13j

W=17.13j
 
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the correct answer (in my book) for the work done comes out around 188.4j so I'm way off.- what do i need to change. there's no answer as far as the frequency goes
 
The first part looks correct.

But for the second wouldn't you want to consider the change in rotational kinetic energy?

KE = ½Iω²

ΔKE = ½I1ω1² - ½I2ω2²
 
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